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Duncan		...	12-07-2012 @ 19:58
deadlift 300kg conventional ? never gonna happen Member 414, 1127 posts SQ 275, BP 187.5, DL 317.5 780.0 kgs @ 115kgs Eq	The only thing i can think of as to why eccentrics would be of any use would be to build a bit of muscle mass which can then be used to increase maximal strength. Or gaining confidence. But there are much safer ways of doing that

rolex46		...	12-07-2012 @ 20:01
Member 3667, 127 posts SQ 170, BP 230, DL 0 400.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq	Fazc,put your suit on and come out to clients.

slimsim		...	12-07-2012 @ 20:01
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	Duncan said:The only thing i can think of as to why eccentrics would be of any use would be to build a bit of muscle mass which can then be used to increase maximal strength. Or gaining confidence. But there are much safer ways of doing that TBH I don't think they actually that good for building muscle. Causing DOMS, yes, but increase protein synethesis and aiding super compensation, no. I can't actually think of many more dangerous exercises than eccentric squats with supra-maximal loads - maybe doing it stood on a bosu ball as well?

HUGE_GUY		...	12-07-2012 @ 20:32
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	Duncan said: a squat is not an eccentric though. its an eccentric contraction followed by a concentric contraction i.e. a stretch shortening cycle. An eccentric is when there is an eccentric phase but no concentric. There is an eccentric before concentric, your talking about purely doing eccentric. The recent weighlifter who did the easy 350 squat did a very slow eccentric then easy concentric. Ive seen a few vids of him doing this.

HUGE_GUY		...	12-07-2012 @ 20:35
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	Duncan said:The only thing i can think of as to why eccentrics would be of any use would be to build a bit of muscle mass which can then be used to increase maximal strength. Or gaining confidence. But there are much safer ways of doing that Its for tendon strength. Alot of track and field athletes do it.

slimsim		...	12-07-2012 @ 20:36
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	HUGE_GUY said: There is an eccentric before concentric, your talking about purely doing eccentric. The recent weighlifter who did the easy 350 squat did a very slow eccentric then easy concentric. Ive seen a few vids of him doing this. But Rolex is talking about doing negatives with supra-maximal loads so there's not going to be a concentric portion at the end

HUGE_GUY		...	12-07-2012 @ 20:44
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	slimsim said: But Rolex is talking about doing negatives with supra-maximal loads so there's not going to be a concentric portion at the end I know. The athletes i know of that usually do these are weak. I think hes just trying to throw off some people talking about this. HE'S A TROLL!


JohnGym		...	12-07-2012 @ 20:47
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5 625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	HUGE_GUY said: Its for tendon strength. Alot of track and field athletes do it. Interesting you say this. Allyn Condon used to do a specific day each week of eccentric squats.

Duncan		...	12-07-2012 @ 20:50
deadlift 300kg conventional ? never gonna happen Member 414, 1127 posts SQ 275, BP 187.5, DL 317.5 780.0 kgs @ 115kgs Eq	HUGE_GUY said: Its for tendon strength. Alot of track and field athletes do it. Why not just do ultra hip rep work instead of that? Seems really risky...

HUGE_GUY		...	12-07-2012 @ 21:00
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	Duncan said: Why not just do ultra hip rep work instead of that? Seems really risky... Serious question? Its not risky, just set some bars up and go down. Not sure what ultra hip rep work is. Eccentrics are the best thing for tendons, this is why its always prescribed for tendonitis. This is for squats btw, i have no clue about bench. I can do press ups easier than a 160 bencher though, does this mean im strong??

walker		...	12-07-2012 @ 21:02
Does not need Advice, knows everything. Member 3505, 3510 posts SQ 295, BP 182.5, DL 290 767.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq	Boar said:do you guys know rolex and just having some BANTERTER or is he being a pain in the ass ? I don't think he even knows himself?! It's really Tom... surely?

walker		...	12-07-2012 @ 21:07
Does not need Advice, knows everything. Member 3505, 3510 posts SQ 295, BP 182.5, DL 290 767.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq	rolex46 said:Bigmacca,you are one of my favorite here in the circus, i want to bum you Favouritism!

Duncan		...	12-07-2012 @ 21:13
deadlift 300kg conventional ? never gonna happen Member 414, 1127 posts SQ 275, BP 187.5, DL 317.5 780.0 kgs @ 115kgs Eq	Post Edited: 12.07.2012 @ 21:14 PM by Duncan HUGE_GUY said: Serious question? Its not risky, just set some bars up and go down. Not sure what ultra hip rep work is. Eccentrics are the best thing for tendons, this is why its always prescribed for tendonitis. This is for squats btw, i have no clue about bench. I can do press ups easier than a 160 bencher though, does this mean im strong?? I mean like reps of at least 100 as tendons have such a low blood supply, causing the tendons to grow and then more force can be produced by them. That does sound interesting though, never really heard of anyone doing these properly and it having any real positive effect

rob0210		...	12-07-2012 @ 21:15
Member 1723, 821 posts SQ 280, BP 200, DL 330 810.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	HUGE_GUY said: Eccentrics are the best thing for tendons, this is why its always prescribed for tendonitis. True, but eccentrics for tendonitis aren't involving supramaximal loads. Considering that between all the guys on this site who are strong on an international level , and all the guys on the site who know s**t loads about training methodologies and strength development, there is rarely if ever any mention/use about eccentirc work for strength development. To me that says it all...

JackRevans		...	12-07-2012 @ 21:15
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Duncan said: I mean like reps of at least 100 as tendons have such a low blood supply, causing the tendons to grow and then more force can be produced by them. That does sound interesting though, never really heard of anyone doing these properly and it having any real positive effect how often should one do this kind of thing? and what excersizes?

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