Toby's training log
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| Toby |  | ... | 31-08-2010 @ 23:07 |
 Member 887, 337 posts SQ 0, BP 207.25, DL 0207.3 kgs @ 132.5kgs Eq | BigKen said:True, but IMO too much at 100% and just below is taxing the CNS too much, hence "failure due to fatigue" I thought you were a Scottish Powerlifting boy through and through like Steel... It seems to be working quite well for me, and a lot of guys i train with. we are all making great progress - why change it? And sadly scottish powerlifting dont have competitions down in Devon. | ||
| voldomonkey | | ... | 31-08-2010 @ 23:09 |
 Member 1465, 320 posts SQ 207.5, BP 137.5, DL 222.5567.5 kgs @ 82.2kgs UnEq | Singles can be very effective - I incorporate them into my squatting most weeks. All submaximal so as not to fry my CNS. I'm already back up to 200 which is only 7.5k off the Scottish record at my weight class. I think that everyone will respond to different training methods based on a multitude of factors such as body weight, height, fat distribution, diet, age...the list goes on. There is NOT one formula that will give maximum results for all lifters. You go with what works and ignore the people too small minded and insular to try things other than their own programme in their own little world. Afterall, there is only one way to find out if something works or not and that is to test it on yourself. Over the years I have tried many different approaches to training. I have now figured out exactly what works for me in 2 of the 3 lifts. Only deadlift left to crack but that seems to be 75% of the way there now... Still, I have tried more than one method and settled on what works for me. At the end of the day, if you're lifting more than some of these inbreeds, keep going bud.  | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 31-08-2010 @ 23:17 |
 Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | I never said change it, just stating from my experiences of going to maxes and just up to singles for years at a time and then changing to a more rep based system I have had better results. You in Devon for the long haul now. voldomonkey; who said that there was only one training formula... | ||
| Toby | | ... | 31-08-2010 @ 23:22 |
Member 887, 337 posts SQ 0, BP 207.25, DL 0207.3 kgs @ 132.5kgs Eq | BigKen said:I never said change it, just stating from my experiences of going to maxes and just up to singles for years at a time and then changing to a more rep based system I have had better results. You in Devon for the long haul now. voldomonkey; who said that there was only one training formula... Once it stops working for me i may well look into another training method. But for now, if it aint broke, why fix it? Yep, i am staying down here. | ||
| SuperSteel101 | | ... | 31-08-2010 @ 23:27 |
 over 1000 posts and still no tagline Member 865, 1370 posts SQ 200, BP 155, DL 250605.0 kgs @ 80.6kgs UnEq | BigKen said:True, but IMO too much at 100% and just below is taxing the CNS too much, hence "failure due to fatigue" I thought you were a Scottish Powerlifting boy through and through like Steel... He's a bloody traitor lol! However I'm going to let him off on this occassion given the geographical issues. Spreading the love to the BDFPA soon too  They'll be like a dirty powerlifting mistress from my beloved Scottish Powerlifting  | ||
| voldomonkey | | ... | 31-08-2010 @ 23:27 |
Member 1465, 320 posts SQ 207.5, BP 137.5, DL 222.5567.5 kgs @ 82.2kgs UnEq | BK - Well I certainly didn't and I was posting to Toby on his training log, sharing my thoughts with him. I find it more than a little irksome when people claim to have the perfect training method that works for everyone, or indeed those who profess to have unlimited knowledge of all things strength/fitness related. This claim will never be accurate, since as human beings who are (or should be) individuals we all respond to stimuli in differing ways. I'm a firm believer in the saying "if it isn't broken, don't fix it." Toby has had a successful few months of training and I am congratulating him on such, nothing else. | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 31-08-2010 @ 23:34 |
Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | I never said change it just giving an insight into my experiences for future thoughts on routines once progress slows... | ||
| voldomonkey | | ... | 31-08-2010 @ 23:37 |
Member 1465, 320 posts SQ 207.5, BP 137.5, DL 222.5567.5 kgs @ 82.2kgs UnEq | You seem to be taking any comments made completely out of context. Can I ask why you are behaving in such a negative way towards Toby online? | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 01-09-2010 @ 01:16 |
Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | Out of context? Toby has said multiple time "why change it?" I am just stating that I never said change it, just giving an opinion and an insight from my experiences. Behaving negitively, I wouldn't say so, just discussing things; wasn't sure if bench was legal, didn't realise he was down in Devon from now on etc etc. May I ask why you have to defend Toby, and make assumptions that I'm trying to force him to change his training... | ||
| voldomonkey | | ... | 01-09-2010 @ 10:05 |
Member 1465, 320 posts SQ 207.5, BP 137.5, DL 222.5567.5 kgs @ 82.2kgs UnEq | Well you only ever seem to post when you have something negative to say towards him. (For example "Lots of reds") I think if you took the time to actually read my comments, including the punctuation, you would then understand the thought processes and meaning behind how they were written. As for defending Toby - he is more than capable of doing that by himself. All I have done is ask why you are behaving in a negative fashion towards him. If you think that any of my comments were aimed at you, whilst on TOBY's training journal, before you started this inane to-ing and fro-ing, then you are greatly mistaken. My comments are for TOBY. If you think that they are aimed at you, whilst on his journal, then you must have a higher opinion of yourself than I originally thought. | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 01-09-2010 @ 11:31 |
 Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | voldomonkey said:Well you only ever seem to post when you have something negative to say towards him. (For example "Lots of reds") I think if you took the time to actually read my comments, including the punctuation, you would then understand the thought processes and meaning behind how they were written. As for defending Toby - he is more than capable of doing that by himself. All I have done is ask why you are behaving in a negative fashion towards him. If you think that any of my comments were aimed at you, whilst on TOBY's training journal, before you started this inane to-ing and fro-ing, then you are greatly mistaken. My comments are for TOBY. If you think that they are aimed at you, whilst on his journal, then you must have a higher opinion of yourself than I originally thought. hahaha. Dummy well and truely spat out. The world isnt all love and rainbows. | ||
| voldomonkey | | ... | 01-09-2010 @ 13:29 |
Member 1465, 320 posts SQ 207.5, BP 137.5, DL 222.5567.5 kgs @ 82.2kgs UnEq | And there was me thinking it was as well. Oh I now feel so cheated.  Next you'll be telling me there's no Santa Claus. lol | ||
| Wiegieboard | | ... | 01-09-2010 @ 22:58 |
 as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11368 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Toby, nice work on that big 170! Glad you seem to be still on the up! | ||
| Toby | | ... | 02-09-2010 @ 21:53 |
Member 887, 337 posts SQ 0, BP 207.25, DL 0207.3 kgs @ 132.5kgs Eq | Thanks for all the comments, guys!! Back to training. Squats 1 x 5 60kg 1 x 5 80kg 1 x 5 100kg 1 x 5 120kg 1 x 3 140kg belt on 1 x 2 160kg 80kg more than last time i squatted, not to IPF deapth (what will scottish powerlifting say, i might be thrown out of the federation!) Glute feeling much better. Bench Middle finger on ring 1 x 10 20kg 1 x 5 60kg 1 x 3 80kg 1 x 1 100kg 1 x 1 110kg 1 x 1 115kg 1 x 1 120kg - bit slow but felt great compared to my wide grip bench a few weeks ago. Guess all that heavy training helped. 1 x 1 115kg 1 x 1 112.5kg 1 x 1 110kg Incline Bench 1 x 5 50kg 1 x 5 70kg 1 x 5 80kg Finished off with some eccentric bench | ||
| Ross_Harkins | | ... | 02-09-2010 @ 22:04 |
Cleverer than YOU Member 1228, 1046 posts | voldomonkey said:Well you only ever seem to post when you have something negative to say towards him. (For example "Lots of reds") I think if you took the time to actually read my comments, including the punctuation, you would then understand the thought processes and meaning behind how they were written. As for defending Toby - he is more than capable of doing that by himself. All I have done is ask why you are behaving in a negative fashion towards him. If you think that any of my comments were aimed at you, whilst on TOBY's training journal, before you started this inane to-ing and fro-ing, then you are greatly mistaken. My comments are for TOBY. If you think that they are aimed at you, whilst on his journal, then you must have a higher opinion of yourself than I originally thought. I can't believe I missed all of this lol! | ||
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