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| luki |  | ... | 27-06-2016 @ 08:59 |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 27.06.2016 @ 09:01 AM by luki See Cameron making his successor enact article 50 is being written as a poison challace for whomever becomes the next Conservative Party Leader and defacto Prime Minister . I can't believe the lack of pressure on president of the European commission, Jean-Claude Juncker to go. If proof was ever needed that the EU is unaccountable to the wants of the populous, one of the largest constituencies voting "bon voyage" and the EU President doesn't feel any shame or need to resign. Do GNIB journalists do any fact checking: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/hah-liberal-media-pran... | ||
| John | | ... | 27-06-2016 @ 09:09 |
#biggef Member 5263, 3492 posts SQ 260, BP 195, DL 260715.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | Yeah not a Tory fan as I've said and even less of a fan of Osbourne however regardless of his stance he is obviously doing the job he is payed to do and not running out like a cry baby.again I understand Cameron's resignation but he could have held on for the six months I feel. Part of the the whole problem for me was the EU 's lack of accountability.never really knew what was ment by a caretaker government but I think I get it now.anyway I'm glad to see Osbourne just calming things down a little as for the "punishment tax" he says it would be implemented by the next government so I feel that could change slightly. | ||
| matthewvc |  | ... | 27-06-2016 @ 16:51 |
 ‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3230 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | Fatpete said: however hard leavers (esp on FB) make pronouncements they're all an erudite, educated and cosmopolitan lot. a hell of lot do fit the stereotype of being mindblowingly ill-informed, like this gentleman or flat out xenophobic. this is why the whole referendum thing was stupid from the start. if you said 'vote yes to proposal to make everyone a millionaire' and ran a campaign filled with emotive empty rhetoric and 'don't listen to experts' you'd get a positive vote without anyone understanding the economic, hyper-inflationary effects of giving everyone 1 million in fiat. this is a triumph for anti-intellectualism as much as anything. listening to a young lad in wales say 'what has the eu done for us' stood outside an eu regeneration project sums the whole charade up. they've made their bed, let them lie in it. | ||
| slimsim | | ... | 27-06-2016 @ 17:00 |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 27.06.2016 @ 17:01 PM by slimsim This guy sums it up for me. https://youtu.be/tzNj-hH8LkY Unfortunately, the leave campaigners chose to position the bulk of their campaign around immigration and the "problems" it presents. Maybe if more lay people, especially leave voters, had had the chance to listen to experts such as this then they wouldn't have appeared as ill educated when being interviewed. | ||
| John | | ... | 27-06-2016 @ 17:41 |
#biggef Member 5263, 3492 posts SQ 260, BP 195, DL 260715.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq | Can't be bothered anymore the votes been cast it doesn't matter why I'd vote again the same way and only a small amount of that reason is down to immagration I know other people who are "formally" educated that would vote the same ,come on people let's get on with working together instead of trying to further the divide. | ||
| Alex76 | | ... | 27-06-2016 @ 21:23 |
Member 4975, 58 posts | John said:Can't be bothered anymore the votes been cast it doesn't matter why I'd vote again the same way and only a small amount of that reason is down to immagration I know other people who are "formally" educated that would vote the same ,come on people let's get on with working together instead of trying to further the divide. But changes to immigration may have never actually been on the table. According to the Attorney General the vote was just whether to leave the EU, not the EEA, which we are also by default a part of. https://www.ifacompliance.eu/attorney-general-confirms-uk-financial... What you've actually voted for is a bonfire of workers' rights at a massive cost that will be paid for by everyone but the rich. | ||
| Rick | | ... | 27-06-2016 @ 22:36 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | The more I think about it, the more plausible this looks: 1. Tories wait a few months to have their holidays* and appoint a new PM. Meanwhile, 2. economic situation becomes increasingly obviously appalling, people increasingly realise what they voted for, and it becomes widely known that an end to freedom of movement isn't on the table from anybody in power. 3. Boris** makes show of discovering we'd be worse off in EEA only, that we can't negotiate effectively once Art 50 triggered, and the others won't negotiate until we do. 4. declares situation has hugely changed from June, so no exit, but HA HA I'M PM. Interesting times. * This is actually happening. ** or whomever. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 28-06-2016 @ 00:14 |
 Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17891 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | http://finance.yahoo.com/news/brexit-martin-wolf-britain-uk-re... | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 28-06-2016 @ 07:29 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17891 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/people-are-really-rea... | ||
| little_a | | ... | 28-06-2016 @ 09:41 |
 still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | Rick said:The more I think about it, the more plausible this looks: 1. Tories wait a few months to have their holidays* and appoint a new PM. Meanwhile, 2. economic situation becomes increasingly obviously appalling, people increasingly realise what they voted for, and it becomes widely known that an end to freedom of movement isn't on the table from anybody in power. 3. Boris** makes show of discovering we'd be worse off in EEA only, that we can't negotiate effectively once Art 50 triggered, and the others won't negotiate until we do. 4. declares situation has hugely changed from June, so no exit, but HA HA I'M PM. Interesting times. * This is actually happening. ** or whomever. I'm thinking along similar lines, although I had a young and hungry Tory (as yet unknown, to me anyway) who promises his party that if they make him leader he won't invoke A50. On that basis he'll call a general election and if successful it's the population that have changed their minds rather than have this un-democratically forced onto them. By proxy the UK population gets a second chance to vote on brexit via a general election. Your version with Boris works as well, in fact I just noticed your ** Either way Sam Cam will be a regular on Loose Women by the end of the year  | ||
| matthewvc | | ... | 28-06-2016 @ 09:48 |
‘downsizing’ Member 5704, 3230 posts SQ 280, BP 210, DL 320810.0 kgs @ 96.3kgs UnEq | John said:Can't be bothered anymore the votes been cast it doesn't matter why I'd vote again the same way and only a small amount of that reason is down to immagration I know other people who are "formally" educated that would vote the same ,come on people let's get on with working together instead of trying to further the divide. what does it mean though 'working together', 'taking back control' mean? 'year zero' thinking this - downtrodden revolution, destroy the elite and rebuild the country from the ashes. sadly the country isn't suddenly going to magic a load of entrepreneurs and stakanovites out of this. it'll be same s**t different day, only with less GDP, more austerity and racism. | ||
| Carl | | ... | 28-06-2016 @ 09:51 |
 Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | Rick said:The more I think about it, the more plausible this looks: 1. Tories wait a few months to have their holidays* and appoint a new PM. Meanwhile, 2. economic situation becomes increasingly obviously appalling, people increasingly realise what they voted for, and it becomes widely known that an end to freedom of movement isn't on the table from anybody in power. 3. Boris** makes show of discovering we'd be worse off in EEA only, that we can't negotiate effectively once Art 50 triggered, and the others won't negotiate until we do. 4. declares situation has hugely changed from June, so no exit, but HA HA I'M PM. Interesting times. * This is actually happening. ** or whomever. I think this is exactly what will happen. | ||
| Gordy | | ... | 28-06-2016 @ 10:09 |
 Member 5418, 383 posts | Post Edited: 17.08.2018 @ 15:14 PM by Gordy | ||
| luki | | ... | 28-06-2016 @ 10:15 |
Avatar Member 5517, 1538 posts SQ 160, BP 165, DL 201526.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | This is a good read if you have an hour. It's a breakdown of voting. http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-vo... | ||
| Gordy | | ... | 28-06-2016 @ 10:29 |
Member 5418, 383 posts | Post Edited: 17.08.2018 @ 15:03 PM by Gordy | ||
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