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RobboIcon...09-06-2015 @ 21:44 
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Sparrow said:
It's what you meant, but not what you said.
But I knew what you meant anyway! Grin


bas***d!!! Wink Grin
samue1sonIcon...09-06-2015 @ 22:41 
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Post Edited: 09.06.2015 @ 22:42 PM by samue1son
Honestly guys - I'm not anti gear. I've really mulled it over 100 times but I have neither the money or my wife's support. I'd probably not actually, if it was available in front of me. I just like the idea of it. I will get quite strong (naturally) and I feel good knowing that training only a little, with decent food - I can make ALL KINDZA GAINZ. Though I love these kinds of threads and wish people would, or COULD be more open about it rather than being "5p.c bodyfat whilst eating loads of pizza and ice-cream".
RobboIcon...09-06-2015 @ 22:47 
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samue1son said:Honestly guys - I'm not anti gear. I've really mulled it over 100 times but I have neither the money or my wife's support. I'd probably not actually, if it was available in front of me. I just like the idea of it. I will get quite strong (naturally) and I feel good knowing that training only a little, with decent food - I can make ALL KINDZA GAINZ. Though I love these kinds of threads and wish people would, or COULD be more open about it rather than being "5p.c bodyfat whilst eating loads of pizza and ice-cream".


Sugdens stance on talking about Ped's was always very firm. Not sure whether it still applies. Lots of threads got locked because of it.
donnieIcon...10-06-2015 @ 00:25 
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Post Edited: 10.06.2015 @ 00:27 AM by donnie
http://s018.radikal.ru/i502/1201/2a/19f50b13b69d.jpg

less than an year later

https://pp.vk.me/c624717/v624717028/16d9a/rj8JWIIy038.jpg

here is to 20 inch arm 5% natty on pizza and icecream ron coleman

http://i.imgur.com/bqWYypQ.jpg

talk me about genetics again

(yes he will never be mr olympia because of structure and mucle belies, but in terms of size and conditioning i see only one answer)

my respect to alex
but i see nothing special in his genetics
but not doubt he responds to drugs tremendously
donnieIcon...10-06-2015 @ 00:36 
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Post Edited: 10.06.2015 @ 00:46 AM by donnie
http://img.yle.fi/radio/ylepuhe/article7215846.ece/ALTERNATES/...

http://forums.steroid.com/attachments/pictures-pro-bodybuilder...

look at this

my favourite marko savolainen

http://i45.tinypic.com/2ypch89.jpg

or maybe top 10 mr olympia competitor evan centopani had superior genetics

yes
to respond to drugs
PhillippeHalterIcon...10-06-2015 @ 05:44 
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donnie said:http://s018.radikal.ru/i502/1201/2a/19f50b13b69d.jpg

less than an year later

https://pp.vk.me/c624717/v624717028/16d9a/rj8JWIIy038.jpg

here is to 20 inch arm 5% natty on pizza and icecream ron coleman

http://i.imgur.com/bqWYypQ.jpg

talk me about genetics again

(yes he will never be mr olympia because of structure and mucle belies, but in terms of size and conditioning i see only one answer)

my respect to alex
but i see nothing special in his genetics
but not doubt he responds to drugs tremendously


The second photo won't link
McMuffin_GainsIcon...10-06-2015 @ 07:15 
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donnie said:http://s018.radikal.ru/i502/1201/2a/19f50b13b69d.jpg

less than an year later

https://pp.vk.me/c624717/v624717028/16d9a/rj8JWIIy038.jpg

here is to 20 inch arm 5% natty on pizza and icecream ron coleman

http://i.imgur.com/bqWYypQ.jpg

talk me about genetics again

(yes he will never be mr olympia because of structure and mucle belies, but in terms of size and conditioning i see only one answer)

my respect to alex
but i see nothing special in his genetics
but not doubt he responds to drugs tremendously
aaron_lohanIcon...10-06-2015 @ 08:47 
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Picture of Ronnie Coleman prior to using.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ronnie+coleman+before+pictures&am...

Hardly 18 inch arms.
CuddlesIcon...10-06-2015 @ 09:05 
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Hardly 5% BF either.

I think people massively misunderstand how lean 5% actually is. OR how much 200lbs actually is, or 250lbs, or 300lbs. They all just become numbers that people throw around with little relevance to reality.
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...10-06-2015 @ 09:25 
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I actually think it takes some degree of courage to take drugs. Even if I wanted to (never even been vaguely interested/curious) I'd be too scared!
BoarIcon...10-06-2015 @ 09:35 
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I think coleman is one of the guys that chose to stay on for life

I kinda squared it with myself by going down the lines of :

alcohol , all the party drugs , prescribed drugs ... most people in their life have done some , so off i went and did what i did.

it seems the norm to play down how much you took and how long you were on for.

and the pro hormones they can chugg like smarties aint natty test boosters thats for sure
PaulSavageIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:11 
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Cuddles said:Hardly 5% BF either.

I think people massively misunderstand how lean 5% actually is. OR how much 200lbs actually is, or 250lbs, or 300lbs. They all just become numbers that people throw around with little relevance to reality.

You really think an 8 time world champion bodybuilder is clueless to these things??

The pic is obviously of him really young, just watch his dvd's, everything i have said is in there so either ronnie is a lying sack of s**t for seemingly no reason, brian dobson is also a lying sack of s**t for seemingly no reason, or you are mistaken.
BenMacIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:17 
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PaulSavage said:
You really think an 8 time world champion bodybuilder is clueless to these things??
The pic is obviously of him really young, just watch his dvd's, everything i have said is in there so either ronnie is a lying sack of s**t for seemingly no reason, brian dobson is also a lying sack of s**t for seemingly no reason, or you are mistaken.


You really think that these pro bb'ers have nothing to gain from massaging the truth a bit?
PeteHodgsonIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:22 
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I'm watching a DVD now. Barbie is flying! I s**t you not.
PeteHodgsonIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:24 
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Also, has anyone ever watched any films with Jason statham in?!!!

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