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PaulSavageIcon...08-06-2015 @ 17:22 
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unit94 said:Lol at Yates not using a lot Tongue

I'm sure you can find it on google easy and a youtube interview on it easy. A lot of people say it's bs when he says what he was taking, that he was on 4 times it but from interview is pretty obvious is what he took. He's never been one to bs.
CuddlesIcon...08-06-2015 @ 17:27 
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PaulSavage said:
I'm sure you can find it on google easy and a youtube interview on it easy. A lot of people say it's bs when he says what he was taking, that he was on 4 times it but from interview is pretty obvious is what he took. He's never been one to bs.


I don't disagree with this, because I couldn't possible say, but how do you know that 'he's never been one to lie?'
PaulSavageIcon...08-06-2015 @ 17:29 
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Ronnie coleman is probably the same, doubt he was taking a lot. When he was natural he had arms over 20" and he had veins sticking through his sweat pants, never over 5% bodyfat. Freak genetics. You really think to get his arms to 23.5" over many years he had to take a lot of stuff? I highly doubt it, he gained muscle very gradually over the years.
unit94Icon...08-06-2015 @ 17:30 
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Cuddles said:
I don't disagree with this, because I couldn't possible say, but how do you know that 'he's never been one to lie?'


Exactly, Its a fairly safe bet that the most lied about thing in bodybuilding is how many drugs people take
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unit94Icon...08-06-2015 @ 17:32 
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PaulSavageIcon...08-06-2015 @ 17:37 
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Cuddles said:
I don't disagree with this, because I couldn't possible say, but how do you know that 'he's never been one to lie?'

If you know bodybuilding at all, you surely know dorian yates was 100% (and no doubt still is) the no bs kind of guy, just trained hard as f**k and won the titles.
donnieIcon...08-06-2015 @ 17:40 
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unit94 said:Lol at Yates not using a lot Tongue


i mean now compared to his bodybuilding years
donnieIcon...08-06-2015 @ 17:44 
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PaulSavage said:
If you know bodybuilding at all, you surely know dorian yates was 100% (and no doubt still is) the no bs kind of guy, just trained hard as f**k and won the titles.


with all my respect to dorian
he didn have the genetics neither structural nor muscle belies or tiny skin

mediocre genetics
he was the first who started the drug abuse in IFBB
he took insulina, hgh and tren abuse to a new level
its obvious in his phisuque
damaged midsection in only a few years
he began all this
of course he is a dirty liar, i dont believe anything he says about drug usage
unit94Icon...08-06-2015 @ 17:45 
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kirkynick said:
What about strongman?


Hmmmm, probably the same but there are afew contenders:
Saying they did a 15 inch deadlift which was closer to 20
Telling you their max squat which was about a quarter squat
The weight of their unweighed implements
Guys in their 28th novice comps saying they've only done 2 and never placed
And my personal favourite,
Not actually resembling the animal which the grown man has in his Facebook name
unit94Icon...08-06-2015 @ 17:46 
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donnie said:
i mean now compared to his bodybuilding years


I didn't mean you I meant Paul saying he didn't take much when he was competing
PaulSavageIcon...08-06-2015 @ 17:48 
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Post Edited: 08.06.2015 @ 17:51 PM by PaulSavage
unit94 said:Yeah I'm sure Ronnie didn't need much, he wasnt that big or lean or successful as a bodybuilder

Your not really understanding. He was less than 5% bodyfat with 20" arms and everything else big before he ever took anything and he ate burgers, pizza, icecream etc only 200g protein a day. That was the first time he went to metroflex gym, he was told there and then by the owner that he could be mr olympia. At this point he didnt even know you needed to eat more protein to gain muscle. This is 1 in a million genetics.

Edit - you don't think after another 10 years of deadicated natural training actually knowing what he was doing, eating right, doubling his protein intake etc that he couldn't gain another 2 inch on his arms or whatever on other body parts?
donnieIcon...08-06-2015 @ 17:52 
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PaulSavage said:
Your not really understanding. He was less than 5% bodyfat with 20" arms and everything else big before he ever took anything and he ate burgers, pizza, icecream etc only 200g protein a day. That was the first time he went to metroflex gym, he was told there and then by the owner that he could be olympia. At this point he didnt even know you needed to eat more protein to gain muscle. This is 1 in a million genetics.


you dont understand the meaning of"genetics" when it comes to pro bodybuilding

genetics means "how u respond to drugs"
ronnie wasn natural since a teenager
unit94Icon...08-06-2015 @ 17:56 
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PaulSavage said:
Your not really understanding. He was less than 5% bodyfat with 20" arms and everything else big before he ever took anything and he ate burgers, pizza, icecream etc only 200g protein a day. That was the first time he went to metroflex gym, he was told there and then by the owner that he could be mr olympia. At this point he didnt even know you needed to eat more protein to gain muscle. This is 1 in a million genetics.
Edit - you don't think after another 10 years of deadicated natural training actually knowing what he was doing, eating right, doubling his protein intake etc that he couldn't gain another 2 inch on his arms or whatever on other body parts?


If he wasn't on much why does he look like s**t now? I hope your trolling me
PaulSavageIcon...08-06-2015 @ 18:06 
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donnie said:
you dont understand the meaning of"genetics" when it comes to pro bodybuilding
genetics means "how u respond to drugs"
ronnie wasn natural since a teenager

You mean you don't. What i said was true. It also matters on your structure, having full muscle bellies etc phil heath for example, you meet him and wonder where the rest of him is, but he takes his top off and boom, he looks jacked as hell, muscles popping everywhere. He's not that big but because of his structure and the way his muscle bellies are he looks a lot bigger than he is, that again, is 1 in a million genetics. You could take everything you can get your hands on but pretty much nobody is going to look like him. The chances of somebody having his level of genetics, his level of deadication and work ethic, plus wanting to be a bodybuilder? Well it makes sense that he is the only person out of 7 billion that's mr olympia right now.

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