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PaulSavageIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:25 
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Post Edited: 10.06.2015 @ 10:27 AM by PaulSavage
BenMac said:
You really think that these pro bb'ers have nothing to gain from massaging the truth a bit?

Ronnie basically said when he first met brian he didnt know much of anything about bodybuilding, only that they had to take gear and do a strict diet, which he didnt want to do either at the time. Brian said when he first met ronnie he had 20" arms and veins sticking through his legs in his sweat pants. He said when he saw that it blew him away so he said ronnie could have a free gym membership if he would try a bodybuilding show.

Can't see anything about how either of them gaining owt from this? They are basically saying ronnie had great genetics (no s**t) / if anything it would only take away from his accomplishments with him being so gifted.
BenMacIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:29 
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PaulSavage said:
Ronnie basically said when he first met brian he didnt know much of anything about bodybuilding, only that they had to take gear and do a strict diet, which he didnt want to do either at the time. Brian said when he first met ronnie he had 20" arms and veins sticking through his legs in his sweat pants. He said when he saw that it blew him away so he said ronnie could have a free gym membership if he would try a bodybuilding show.
Can't see anything about how either of them gaining owt from this? They are basically saying ronnie had great genetics (no s**t) / if anything it would only take away from his accomplishments with him being so gifted.


Well Ronnie gains from it by a myth being created around him, the bigger the myth the more people believe, the more people believe the more people buy his dvds, go to his seminars etc.
AdamTIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:30 
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Post Edited: 10.06.2015 @ 10:39 AM by AdamT
Bodybuilders are hardly going to tell the full truth, are they!

If they go on record and say they use a gram of test a day and 30iu of hgh a day, you know for a fact some idiot teenager will buy a bunch of pills and a bottle of test and whack the full lot into them.

It will be like "Dorian used whatever, so I am going to use more to get even BIGGER."


Bodybulders soon learn the truth after years of taking stuff. I know of a guy personally who is in fantastic shape. He had done well in local competitions and got invited to the worlds. He went ther in his best ever condition but didn't get a look in. I asked him what are his plans to improve? Simple answer was to get money and use more HGH and slin.
PaulSavageIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:34 
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BenMac said:
Well Ronnie gains from it by a myth being created around him, the bigger the myth the more people believe, the more people believe the more people buy his dvds, go to his seminars etc.

He's ronnie coleman, regarded by many as being the best bodybuilder of all time, he doesn't need anything else to sell dvd's. I know people who don't know f**k all about bodybuilding but have gone around saying his catch phrases all day long.
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BoarIcon...10-06-2015 @ 10:45 
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many go beyond hating PED users who look to cheat by lifting in the GBPF ...they hate them across the board .... probably addicted to pain killers but hey ....


and the UFC are starting up with USADA and ramping up out of competition testing ...so that's the UFC screwed
Luke82Icon...10-06-2015 @ 10:47 
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I'm with Paul on this. Hulk Hogan said it was possible to build 24" pythons through training, prayers and vitamins, he had nothing to gain by lying. He said this on the DJ Kat show at or point as well, that's like swearing on the bible.
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BoarIcon...10-06-2015 @ 11:05 
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The UFC are going all GBPF on our asses ......but with actual out of competition testing !!

scarey times for MMA fighetrs !
aaron_lohanIcon...10-06-2015 @ 11:11 
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PaulSavage said:
You really think an 8 time world champion bodybuilder is clueless to these things??
The pic is obviously of him really young, just watch his dvd's, everything i have said is in there so either ronnie is a lying sack of s**t for seemingly no reason, brian dobson is also a lying sack of s**t for seemingly no reason, or you are mistaken.


You shouldnt take everything at face value Paul. Stories are made to build the legend, although personally I respect him more since I have seen what he looked like when he started.
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Boar said:I think coleman is one of the guys that chose to stay on for life

I kinda squared it with myself by going down the lines of :

alcohol , all the party drugs , prescribed drugs ... most people in their life have done some , so off i went and did what i did.

it seems the norm to play down how much you took and how long you were on for.


I dont understand why people play down how much they took, it has no relevance to how much natural talent they have. If some people need to take more it is probably because their body metabolises it differently thus requiring more to get the same effect. Its only the same as people boasting they can drink 10 pints and not get pissed.
aaron_lohanIcon...10-06-2015 @ 11:15 
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kirkynick said:Oh yeah, I though that is was you meant.

A lot of fighters (well UFC guys) are already getting caught anyway through the commission(s). Hardly a fight card goes by nowadays, seemingly, without someone getting caught.

In terms of powerlifting, the RPF (Russian Powerlifting Federation i.e.the Russian IPF affiliate) tests all team members before big comps. They even have it written on their web site along with the exact days of testing.


Have you got a link?
BoarIcon...10-06-2015 @ 11:19 
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kirkynick said: They even have it written on their web site along with the exact days of testing.


superb ! no one really wants any trouble.

I think its more down to shame more than anything , like admitting a weakness .... and the saying does hold true IMO : up the dose, lift the most.

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