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| slimsim |  | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 13:29 |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 09.06.2015 @ 13:32 PM by slimsim Robbo said: Hcg is an LH analog. It mimics LH, but does not help the body produce LH. It actually stops the pituartry gland from secreting LH as your body detects LH when hcg is administered and then ceases its own production. And I thought tamoxifen binds to the estrogen receptor, tricking the body into thinking there is not estrogen, which in turn makes the body produce more testosterone (so it can be converted to estrogen) You're probably right on both counts mate. It's a long long time since I've needed to keep up to date on this topic so I'm probably getting myself confused. That said, does my point still not stand, as in what happens when you come off the Hcg, are you not just delaying the inevitable crash? In regards to tamoxifen.....I know something is binding to something, but can't remember what!  When I used it (last time probably 10-years ago) it was on the basis that it purely prevented the likelihood of gyno post cycle due to the oestrogen binding effect, not really to stimulate test production. | ||
| Robbo | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 13:34 |
 When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | slimsim said: You're probably right on both counts mate. It's a long long time since I've needed to keep up to date on this topic so I'm probably getting myself confused. That said, does my point still not stand, as in what happens when you come off the Hcg, are you not just delaying the inevitable crash? In regards to tamoxifen.....I know something is binding to something, but can't remember what! Well if you run the hcg through the clearance time of the course, when you stop the hcg, and then start on the clomid/tamoxifen that should fire up the pituartry glad to secrete its own LH/FSH. The leydig cells in the nuts have been stimulated to produce test by the use of hcg (basically LH) while your own is shut down, then once hcg is finished its like handing over a baton to in a relay race to the clomid to then fire up the pituartry. The LH that's now being secreted from the pituartry should couple with the nuts and then fire up | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 14:05 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | Robbo said: Well if you run the hcg through the clearance time of the course, when you stop the hcg, and then start on the clomid/tamoxifen that should fire up the pituartry glad to secrete its own LH/FSH. The leydig cells in the nuts have been stimulated to produce test by the use of hcg (basically LH) while your own is shut down, then once hcg is finished its like handing over a baton to in a relay race to the clomid to then fire up the pituartry. The LH that's now being secreted from the pituartry should couple with the nuts and then fire up This was percisely my understanding. Before pct existed, old school bodybuilders tapered off. Those that used long esters, would then switch to test prop and say they were starting their taper at 100mg a week, the next week they would go to 75mg and then 50 mg and then finish as low as say 25mg. Not sure how accurate this is but I heard it from an older bodybuilder who started gear in the late 70s. | ||
| JC |  | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 14:23 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | kirkynick said: So, the question is: Is it worth it? You obviously seem to think it is (well, I presume you do). What are you going to do when you eventually, presuming you do, come completely off.for good? Still go to the gym? Take up marathon running? Surely it will be a mindf**k? I think a person has to be pretty narcissistic to go that way. But I'm not judging. Each to their own and all that. Its worth it at the time, yeah Iv been off for a while and plan to continue along that path and compete gbpf in the future | ||
| deleted2_20210523 | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 14:23 |
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| AdamT | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 14:34 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5206 posts | JC said: Its worth it at the time, yeah Iv been off for a while and plan to continue along that path and compete gbpf in the future I have followed your log and know you are a strong guy. How have your powerlifts been since you came off?? | ||
| deleted2_20210523 | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 15:19 |
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| Cuddles | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 15:36 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | slimsim said:Biology experts probably look at juicers and shake their head in disbelief. They do, or at least I know a few that do. The people that I have known on here that have gone down that route have, generally speaking, tried to inform themselves of what they are doing. I fear for the many others, who read some bro science on the internet and think they 'know' the science behind what they are doing, seduced by a chemistry term or two. Like others have said, fair play to the fellas in this thread honest open enough to discuss it. I think it's quite telling that they are also people who know each other and have probably all trained under the same roof at some stage. t**ts the lot of them | ||
| DeanW92 | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 16:16 |
Member 4496, 1446 posts SQ 240, BP 200, DL 300740.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq | Robbo said: Same here Add to that low energy as well and it was a very miserable time for me coming off 12+ months later now for me and starting to feel a bit more normal but not like I used to feel pre-PED usage. Did you use to stay on and do blasting and cruising, I had heard that some others who trained at the junction did. I have always fancied trying a cycle but having to keep it from my gf has detered me, e.g. Wouldn't be able to use HCG as it has to be stored in the fridge. | ||
| rawlifter | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 16:43 |
Member 5584, 304 posts SQ 225, BP 157.5, DL 260642.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | JC said: Its worth it at the time, yeah Iv been off for a while and plan to continue along that path and compete gbpf in the future I thought GBPF was a drug free org? does it not include life time use or just in competition use? | ||
| Robbo | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 17:06 |
When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | DeanW92 said: Did you use to stay on and do blasting and cruising, I had heard that some others who trained at the junction did. I have always fancied trying a cycle but having to keep it from my gf has detered me, e.g. Wouldn't be able to use HCG as it has to be stored in the fridge. Just blasting No, i mean competition season lasted around 7-8 months, which was a massive issue of mine Say comp season starts at qualifier in April, you go on in February time roughy, them esm final June, so don't come off, then bsm July, Uks August, then there's was European and worlds comps later on. You have to be on all year. Some may say 'well do it natural' etc. let's be fair, it's strongman, an awful lot use, so if you want to be good, like me, you use, and hardly get chance to come off! | ||
| walker | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 17:08 |
 Does not need Advice, knows everything. Member 3505, 3510 posts SQ 295, BP 182.5, DL 290767.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | rawlifter said: I thought GBPF was a drug free org? does it not include life time use or just in competition use? It's not a lifetime drug free fed, I think the rule is 2 years. I mean how can it be lifetime drug free when you can get a 2 year ban for testing positive and then compete again as people have done... The bans may be longer now I think. Even BWL don't say lifetime drug free and they're Olympic affiliated obviously! They are tested feds. BDFPA on the other hand have a lifetime drug free ethos. | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 17:20 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10443 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | DeanW92 said: Did you use to stay on and do blasting and cruising, I had heard that some others who trained at the junction did. I have always fancied trying a cycle but having to keep it from my gf has detered me, e.g. Wouldn't be able to use HCG as it has to be stored in the fridge. Hiding drug use from a loved one doesn't seem the smartest idea in more ways than one. Also i could be wrong but the biologist in me is making me think most injectable gear should be kept in the fridge although I am aware real world drug use isn't as controlled as it is in a lab. | ||
| Wiegieboard | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 17:24 |
 as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11329 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Good ooooooooold nolvadex and clomid. | ||
| GATES | | ... | 09-06-2015 @ 17:25 |
 What's your thoughts on one legged drills? Member 1725, 4343 posts SQ 250, BP 125, DL 272.5647.5 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq | DeanW92 said: Did you use to stay on and do blasting and cruising, I had heard that some others who trained at the junction did. I have always fancied trying a cycle but having to keep it from my gf has detered me, e.g. Wouldn't be able to use HCG as it has to be stored in the fridge. Them bloody junction lot hahah | ||