Body builders after photos
| SteBennett |  | ... | 11-06-2015 @ 22:23 |
Average hamstring at best Member 4663, 588 posts | Surely Anthony joshua is taking something? To be that big, and lean plus all the cardio he'll be doing. If he's not then I'm doing something very wrong | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 06:52 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | JC said: Do you feel the same way about recreationals? I agree with you, but im just interested in if you see the 'pushing' of charle, speed, chronic, e, to be any different Good question, and I didn't really know my answer until you asked. I guess I do, yeah. I'd probably have drawn a line between harder stuff and weed, but given how strong that is these days I'm not sure I even believe that anymore. I do think recreational drugs are a lot easier to 'get right' if that makes sense, but we're all stupid enough to f**k ourselves up regardless, and given they almost universally involve alcohol too, the likelihood of making a mistake is elevated. Worryingly, I knew plenty who seemed to walk the line using both, without any knowledge of how to stay safe, simultaneously. You won't stop these kids doing it. So we've got to educate them how to do it safely, and stop worrying that it encourages them. They're gonna do it anyway. | ||
| Steve |  | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 10:37 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Cuddles said: On a serious note, this s**t winds me the f**k up. As a young (15-16) gym rat I knew at lest 3 people who would sell me any gear I wanted, in any quantities. I was 15, and pretty bright, but what the f**k did I know about taking gear. I saw a lot of teenagers do a lot of stupid things. I'm in no way arguing in favour of PEDs, but I wonder if there's any greater risk involved at 15/16 years old. Suleymanoglu (the greatest weightlifter of all time?) started breaking WR at just 16 years old. I would guess, given Bulgaria's record on PEDs from the time, that few people would argue this was achieved naturally. | ||
| slimsim | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 11:10 |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6051 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Steve said: I'm in no way arguing in favour of PEDs, but I wonder if there's any greater risk involved at 15/16 years old. Suleymanoglu (the greatest weightlifter of all time?) started breaking WR at just 16 years old. I would guess, given Bulgaria's record on PEDs from the time, that few people would argue this was achieved naturally. Don't they stunt growth if taken in puberty. Suleymanoglu could be the poster boy for this effect! OK, not a life threatening issue but I'm sure a lot of youngsters (especially those not already blessed with height) wouldn't risk taking them if they knew they'd risk forever being a short arse! | ||
| aaron_lohan | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 11:48 |
 Hasn't always been a bench press specialist Member 44, 1907 posts SQ 252.5, BP 220, DL 210682.5 kgs @ 83kgs Eq | Steve said: I'm in no way arguing in favour of PEDs, but I wonder if there's any greater risk involved at 15/16 years old. Suleymanoglu (the greatest weightlifter of all time?) started breaking WR at just 16 years old. I would guess, given Bulgaria's record on PEDs from the time, that few people would argue this was achieved naturally. Theres going to be a risk in taking them at 15-16 years old because PEDs affect the nervous system and this would still be developing at that age. As with any risk it would be dose and time dependent. | ||
| justaboutpastit | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 11:48 |
Member 5268, 136 posts SQ 205, BP 125, DL 240570.0 kgs @ 106kgs UnEq | slimsim said: Don't they stunt growth if taken in puberty. Suleymanoglu could be the poster boy for this effect! OK, not a life threatening issue but I'm sure a lot of youngsters (especially those not already blessed with height) wouldn't risk taking them if they knew they'd risk forever being a short arse! I'm not so sure they would be informed of all the negatives of taking them and possibly in some cases even know they are taking them (thinking oral peds). When you have a coach pushing you and telling you to take this "supplement" to help you win. "You do want to win don't you?" added to the fact that you respect your coach and trust that they would always do the right thing by you as a athlete.. think this was big issue through collage football in the US I'm not as sure about the attitude of coaches in weightlifting. | ||
| justaboutpastit | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 11:58 |
Member 5268, 136 posts SQ 205, BP 125, DL 240570.0 kgs @ 106kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 12.06.2015 @ 12:12 PM by justaboutpastit I think that it is also strange that peds are so demonised yet as a kid I grew up watching Popeye with his spinach which when he took it made him strong and beat the bully. Captain America was injected with a super serum which turned him from a small weakling into a super hero. Roger Ram jet had his "Power Pill" seeing that our childhood heroes took things to get them strong is there any wonder that people take them. A reasonable documentary on this is "Bigger Stronger Faster" which I watched on netflix a few months back, It was in places quite funny especially the US congressman that didn't know the legal age to drink in his state or whether steroids were illegal. | ||
| donnie | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 13:00 |
 Wee Donnie Member 5605, 450 posts | judge nobody salute nobody but still in strongman Zydrunas Savickas competes 20 years top level Bil Kazmaier stil alive in good shape many years those are some monster PEDS resistant genetic freaks both take steroids since teenagers its pretty individual | ||
| rian1987 | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 13:45 |
not stating facts. Member 3100, 502 posts | Rugby league is full of gear. I mean look at the size n how lean the guys are. Also the impacts they take week in week out. It takes so much to recover. When I was in the academy for a team which is one league below the superleague we were told to turn up to training early and the coach told us that the testers were coming and if anyone didn't feel well they should go home. Quite a few went hone haha. | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 12-06-2015 @ 18:34 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Steve said: I'm in no way arguing in favour of PEDs, but I wonder if there's any greater risk involved at 15/16 years old. Suleymanoglu (the greatest weightlifter of all time?) started breaking WR at just 16 years old. I would guess, given Bulgaria's record on PEDs from the time, that few people would argue this was achieved naturally. You may well be right and I certainly don't know enough to disagree. I don't really understand the point about Suley though, besides the n=1 issue, I'm not sure how he is evidence that abusing steroids as a teenager is not bad for you. I suspect, if as is likely, he was using, then he was doing so under at least some direction. What supervision does tne 15 year old gym rat who's bought a few gs of test and a few hundred dbol from Big Rory get? Most of them probably think clomid is an STD. Looking back I saw people do some ridiculous things without having any idea what they were doing. Sadly most were getting hammered regularly too. As I said, these people need educating, not chastising. | ||
| bcrusher | | ... | 02-08-2015 @ 00:46 |
 Member 4865, 240 posts | This guy in pj's below was massive in 2014 (Mr Olympia size) but got sick and has got a gofundme appeal about $35K raised https://2dbdd5116ffa30a49aa8-c03f075f8191fb4e60e74b907071aee8.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/5459202_1438121988.6212.jpg http://www.gofundme.com/7f5dh3wa5d | ||
| Funky_monkey | | ... | 03-08-2015 @ 11:20 |
 403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | bcrusher said:This guy in pj's below was massive in 2014 (Mr Olympia size) but got sick and has got a gofundme appeal about $35K raised https://2dbdd5116ffa30a49aa8-c03f075f8191fb4e60e74b907071aee8.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/5459202_1438121988.6212.jpg http://www.gofundme.com/7f5dh3wa5d How this guy has raised money is beyond me. His veins are enlarged, most likely due to extremely high blood pressure, which is no doubt increased massively by (if not actually CAUSED by) PEDs. He's spent a fkload of money on said PEDs, most likely in the ballpark figure of the $100,000USD that he's after! | ||
| ChrisMcCarthy | | ... | 03-08-2015 @ 12:51 |
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts | Funky_monkey said: How this guy has raised money is beyond me. His veins are enlarged, most likely due to extremely high blood pressure, which is no doubt increased massively by (if not actually CAUSED by) PEDs. He's spent a fkload of money on said PEDs, most likely in the ballpark figure of the $100,000USD that he's after! Because people aren't c**ts? | ||
| Funky_monkey | | ... | 03-08-2015 @ 16:19 |
403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | ChrisMcCarthy said: Because people aren't c**ts? They're mugs! If I have spent all my money on crack, and then want money off you because I took loads of crack and am now unwell as a result of this, would you give it to me? You saying you'd be a c**t if you DIDN'T give me money? | ||
| ChrisMcCarthy | | ... | 03-08-2015 @ 17:45 |
Lost his pen, then found his pen. #phew Member 4899, 2956 posts | I'd agree that there are arguably many more "worthy" causes to donate to but moaning about someone trying to raise money in this fashion seems most unkind. I've worked for Charities that help homeless people, many of which have experience of homelessness due to drugs, alcohol etc, so I certainly think your crack analogy does not hold water. | ||
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