trying to be less emo, and do an open comp
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| martinb |  | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 14:48 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | feel like hell today, hacking up stuff all the way the the gym 18 inch Deads 235kg for 3reps, 250kg for 3reps(my previous 1rm), 265kg for 2reps PB, should have had 3 or 4, but kinda stumbled at the top of the 2nd rep, lost my breath, and started coughing, so just stopped Shrugs 150kg, sets of 11, 10 + 10 Calves-some | ||
| maca | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 17:21 |
 Member 1224, 652 posts | martinb said:feel like hell today, hacking up stuff all the way the the gym 18 inch Deads 235kg for 3reps, 250kg for 3reps(my previous 1rm), 265kg for 2reps PB, should have had 3 or 4, but kinda stumbled at the top of the 2nd rep, lost my breath, and started coughing, so just stopped Shrugs 150kg, sets of 11, 10 + 10 Calves-some how do you find the 18in to normal floor deads martin? | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 17:25 |
 Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | Hows the BTN PP going mate, you done much of it? | ||
| martinb | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 18:34 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | maca said: how do you find the 18in to normal floor deads martin? actually today they were a hell of a lot better, finally seemed to get some sort of a groove going, 265 farly flew up, after it moved that first horrible inch, just needs more practice. My floor dead has actually started comin along since i brought these in | ||
| martinb | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 18:42 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | BigKen said:Hows the BTN PP going mate, you done much of it? just a couple of times, did a single at 110 with no arms, good snap. About 2 months back just missed a push press from the front with 130, got 120 easy, so I think I should be around 125-130. Not really sure how to go about it, cos I've got a 110 log at the bernard castle event first, so I need to concentrate on that really Would be good to understand the rules though, you are allowed a split???? | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 18:45 |
Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | Post Edited: 27.04.2010 @ 18:45 PM by BigKen I have log at the NEC show, then BTN PP at UKs, log at Unit 20 SM North Qual and then the medley at FITT.The way I'm doing it is to train BTN PP as my main movement and then have another main, but accessory main; for NEC DB for reps, for others jerk or clean and jerk. Then on the weekends I'll train log and press medley as part of events. My understanding of the rules is that you can split, but not double dip. | ||
| martinb | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 19:01 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | I currently do cg bench as a main in the week, and log at the unit on sunday perhaps I should change to BTN PP as the main mid week, changing to cg bench as a sup not sure how I'll cope with 2 shoulder workouts in a week, never tried that before! | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 19:08 |
Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | Thing is with jerk there isn't much shoulder involvement, and neither should BTN PP if you're getting good drive into it. If you leave plenty of room between pressing workouts you'll be fine. Even with training press on events day (Sunday) I'm still fine to train overhead on a Tuesday. I train triceps on a separate day so don't need to worry about trying to fit triceps in on the same day as shoulders. This was I can focus all my efforts into overhead stuff, maybe another pressing movement and also oly stuff. For instance here is what I did yesterday: BTN Push Press Standing Strict BB Press Incline DB Press Power Snatch Hang Clean Lat Raises | ||
| martinb | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 19:29 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | while I'm not sure I have quite your recovery abilities, you are right in what you say that BTN PP shouldn't be too taxing on the shoulders, and hey, there are no prizes for a big close grip bench, so I am gonna change it this week | ||
| drew | | ... | 27-04-2010 @ 19:51 |
 I thought Joplin choked on a sandwich? Member 616, 8404 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 78.8kgs UnEq | martinb said:while I'm not sure I have quite your recovery abilities, you are right in what you say that BTN PP shouldn't be too taxing on the shoulders, and hey, there are no prizes for a big close grip bench, so I am gonna change it this week I approve | ||
| martinb | | ... | 28-04-2010 @ 14:11 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | for anyone who fancies giving me a hand, but most importantly Drew! been thinking about this further, and was thinking that maybe I could perform the BTN PP at the start of my CGbench workout, as a primer, as it shouldn't tax my pressing muscles too much, but I really like the way my CGbench has been improving, and believe it is really helping my tri strength, so don't want to take focus from it I do 5,3,1 and think this could work in a similar way to performing power cleans before your main squat or dead? (recomendation from Wendler in the ebook) Any thoughts would be welcome | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 28-04-2010 @ 14:16 |
Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | Doing that shouldn't cause a problem, but expect the CG Bench to drop a little as you're available energy isn't going to be as high. How many times do you train a week currently and what's the breakdown? | ||
| martinb | | ... | 28-04-2010 @ 14:23 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Tues: Dead of some sort, deficit, 18inch or floor. Accessory: Shrugs, GHR, Calves Thurs: CG Bench Accessory: Dips, Chins, Ballistic Press-ups, Curls Fri: Squat Accessory: Leg Press, Lunges Sun: Log & Events Accessory: Mil Log plus 2 or 3 sessions a week of abs, neck, grip and kettle bell swings, just done in the flat Mon and Wed Hill sprints, and some rowing sprints after training if I have time | ||
| BigKen | | ... | 28-04-2010 @ 14:29 |
Not in Loz's top 10 uk strongmen Member 144, 4421 posts SQ 320, BP 165, DL 350835.0 kgs @ 123kgs Eq | Looks like a distinct lack of upper back work there. I like having a separate pressing day than just relying on press on events day. For instance, if I didn't have a log or press medley in comps after the UK Qual, I wouldn't train press at all on event day and just focus on the other events; stones, medleys etc. Just seems a bit empty to me. | ||
| Duncan | | ... | 28-04-2010 @ 14:33 |
 deadlift 300kg conventional ? never gonna happen Member 414, 1127 posts SQ 275, BP 187.5, DL 317.5780.0 kgs @ 115kgs Eq | GMs? | ||
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