Any serious dangers using Caffeine/Pre-Workouts?

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McMuffin_Gains		Any serious dangers using Caffeine/Pre-Workouts?	01-10-2014 @ 22:04
Help me rescue my Insulina. Member 5366, 1090 posts	Post Edited: 01.10.2014 @ 22:05 PM by McMuffin_Gains Your hear an awful lot of negative press about the long term effects and deaths related to PED's however it seems to acknowledged that it's the stimulants that actually push people over the edge. Now I have never used and therefore not wanting to discuss more hardcore stimulants Clen, T3, Ephedrine etc. I do however use caffeine, in raw form nearly every workout. Sometimes more than others. It doesn't give me bad crashes or a racing heart and I see no issues with using it. Kiefers book on carb loading suggests an enormous caffeine intake, surely wouldn't advocate something that could harm you? Is there any research to suggest that long term use of CNS stimulants can cause damage/shorten ones lifespan like some bro-science folklore daily mail readers would occasionally have you believe?

MrSmall		...	01-10-2014 @ 22:17
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230 515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq	Sadly there is a 100% death rate, in the long term, for people consuming either caffeine or preworkouts. Same goes for ibuprofen. Best stay away.

ben66		...	01-10-2014 @ 22:26
Why get fat to look big? Member 1330, 4797 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 305 805.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq	I heard Freddie Mercury Got aids form too much caffeine. Not saying it's true, but it's definitely true.

Sawyers		...	01-10-2014 @ 22:29
Member 2713, 1887 posts SQ 242.5, BP 140, DL 285 667.5 kgs @ 84kgs UnEq	http://examine.com/supplements/Caffeine/

McMuffin_Gains		...	01-10-2014 @ 22:55
Help me rescue my Insulina. Member 5366, 1090 posts	So what you're saying is that if the Alzheimer's, Cirrhosis or Liver cancer doesn't get me, the moustacheod man love will?

Wiegieboard		...	01-10-2014 @ 23:00
as crimson as my last victims underclothing..... Member 899, 11330 posts SQ 180, BP 132.5, DL 190 502.5 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	Im pre workouts b**ch. Other people seem to thrive on It

slimsim		...	01-10-2014 @ 23:08
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225 550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq	MrSmall said:Sadly there is a 100% death rate, in the long term, for people consuming either caffeine or preworkouts. Same goes for ibuprofen. Best stay away. This is completely true. 100% of people who were known to have used either caffeine and ibuprofen died in the long term. Dangerous stuff!


General_ill		...	01-10-2014 @ 23:11
3rd place Europes strongest man 2016 U90kg Member 1239, 13275 posts SQ 280, BP 155, DL 310 745.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 01.10.2014 @ 23:12 PM by General_ill slimsim said: MrSmall said:Sadly there is a 100% death rate, in the long term, for people consuming either caffeine or preworkouts. Same goes for ibuprofen. Best stay away. This is completely true. 100% of people who were known to have used either caffeine and ibuprofen died in the long term. Dangerous stuff! Take what these two say with a Pinch of salt as neither of then Said fact. Also they didn't capitalise it. FACT. Edit :-That's a FACT.

John		lol	02-10-2014 @ 00:00
#biggef Member 5263, 3492 posts SQ 260, BP 195, DL 260 715.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq	That's it I've signed my own death warrant.I took ibuprofen for a head ache the other day and had a cup of coffee with a full English I'm screwed oh and as it happens wierdly I hear queens fat bottomed girls on the radio today.....it was nice knowing you :/ I've heard all the same things to its hard to know what to believe.

JackRevans		...	02-10-2014 @ 06:44
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	Making too many gains

Fatpete		...	02-10-2014 @ 06:54
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17900 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300 827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq	John said:queens fat bottomed girls on the radio today...... The ones who make the rocking world go round ? I do hope so. I like them.

HUGE_GUY		...	02-10-2014 @ 07:41
Avatar not found I might destroy the planet Member 2745, 803 posts	I've wondered this. I have about 10 strong cups of coffee a day. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-21423499 I hope it wasn't the caffeine that killed her.

John		hehe	02-10-2014 @ 07:42
#biggef Member 5263, 3492 posts SQ 260, BP 195, DL 260 715.0 kgs @ 130kgs UnEq	Fatpete said: The ones who make the rocking world go round ? I do hope so. I like them. Yep them ones :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

1369phil		...	02-10-2014 @ 08:44
doesnt work hard enough in the gym Member 1492, 2138 posts SQ 170, BP 145, DL 195 510.0 kgs @ 112kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 02.10.2014 @ 09:08 AM by 1369phil As someone who drinks a lot of caffeine (shift work for over 20 years will do that !) - the one thing I took from the BBC article : I can drink about 500mg of caffeine a day and still be in the "safe" zone Further reading suggests that 5-6 grams (5000-6000mg) might be the upper limit (a can of monster has about 150mg) There was a 16 year old who had caffeine pills - the equivalent of 25-33 cans of monster and he survived Everyone at work expects me to die when I have two or three cans on a night shift

little_a		...	02-10-2014 @ 09:30
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts	McMuffin_Gains said:So what you're saying is that if the Alzheimer's, Cirrhosis or Liver cancer doesn't get me, the moustacheod man love will? I think statistically and up to your 40's Suicide is the biggest killer in men, with RTA being the biggest to mid 20's. After that it's a toss up between cancer and heart/ lung deseases, but in all honesty by this time you've got more to worry about than death. Important things. Things that matter. If longevity is what you're after, then a BMI of around 25 is where it's at. If it's not so important have a coffee and a sticky bun, then smoke a tab. makes hang overs enjoyable too

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