Starting a Deadlift rep with a rolling motion

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Big_Vess		Starting a Deadlift rep with a rolling motion	28-12-2012 @ 14:47
I am pro for the dish Member 934, 998 posts SQ 205, BP 157.5, DL 215 577.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 28.12.2012 @ 14:50 PM by Big_Vess I am no big deadlifter but today I thought I would try lifting with a bit of a roll away and towards action and found it really helped. Wondered how many others lift this way compared to lifting from a dead stop. I take it lifting this way wouldn’t be allowed in a Power lifting comp??

JamieG		...	28-12-2012 @ 14:49
Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210 522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	Bennis WR was done this way I can't think what advantage it would give though

simon_knowles		...	28-12-2012 @ 14:51
Member 2785, 205 posts SQ 300, BP 170, DL 335 805.0 kgs @ 168kgs UnEq	Stops the bar from being completely dead, by putting a little momentum in it. I do it sometimes.

fong		...	28-12-2012 @ 14:52
really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260 550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 28.12.2012 @ 14:54 PM by fong JamieG said: I can't think what advantage it would give though it's already carrying momentum and thus it might influence the initial pull. however, if you take in to account resolving forces of a perfectly horizontal floor and a perfectly vertical pull, technically it shouldn't benefit the lifter at all. i cant be arsed to physics this but basically if you imagine the bar moving in a curved motion (as if going up a half pipe ramp or something) it would be easier to shift the weight rather than going straight up. not sure how viable that is in practice and if the issue has been tackled by fed rules or not. i can't imagine lifting in that sort of motion would be possible though, but it could influence a tiny amount of weight being moved.

JackRevans		...	28-12-2012 @ 15:20
'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235 555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq	i asked a clever physics person and he said: "If you add the velocity/force/whatever component vectors, taken only in each of the 3 separate dimensions, then take the resultant vector, well if you have no vector pointing in one dimension, then the resultant won't have a component in it either" http://imgur.com/IADeE?tags basically, moving something in one direction will have no effect on any other direction you want it to go. having said this, i can imagine rolling the bar towards you might somehow help stretch your hamstrings and possibly give you some kind of stretch reflex

Fazc		...	28-12-2012 @ 15:23
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	I've never managed to make that work for me. Getting in the right position to pull is hard enough.

ystradboy79		...	28-12-2012 @ 15:29
Chris 'The Magician' Melling Member 1443, 978 posts SQ 270, BP 180, DL 320 770.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq	I find that rolling the bar towards me helps me pull up and back so im driving through my heels with the bar tight to my body , I tend to lose the bar forward otherwise , I think as Jack says it helps to preload the muscles as well so your as tight as possible. As above I dont know the science behind it just that it works for me


leeboy		...	28-12-2012 @ 16:42
do i love snipers? hellyeah Member 2025, 883 posts	probably just a way to put tension into the lift before the lift

dr_hazbun		...	28-12-2012 @ 18:55
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250 635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq	Doesn't work for sumo pulling.

Rodger		...	28-12-2012 @ 19:13
salad dodger missing Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240 576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Used this method once or twice but results are inconsistent. Sometimes I mistime getting myself in position and don't get my arsenal down and sldl it up

brownbear		...	28-12-2012 @ 19:15
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260 638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	Rodger said:Used this method once or twice but results are inconsistent. Sometimes I mistime getting myself in position and don't get my arsenal down and sldl it up its tough when u dont get arsenal down. its not as bad as it was though, their forms not been as consistent since they lost henry and vieira imo

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	28-12-2012 @ 19:25
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22073 posts	More useful for equipped lifters I imagine? As Jack said - horizontal momentum won't translate to vertical momentum.

ianakajohn		...	28-12-2012 @ 19:45
Member 4188, 2081 posts SQ 205, BP 135, DL 250 590.0 kgs @ 94.5kgs UnEq	1015lb deadlift He's has his weetabix, might try the roll?

JamieG		...	28-12-2012 @ 19:48
Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210 522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	Could it just be psychological? Im sure we all have little irrelevant things we do to make us lift 100%. Misha dropping to a full clean position before DLing is an example of this id say? I know before i squat i like to push my shoulders under the bar before bringing them into position. It doesn't make me any tighter i don't think it just feels 'right'.

shortandmighty		...	28-12-2012 @ 19:59
Aiming for a 250 squat by the end of 2012 Member 1989, 3168 posts SQ 240, BP 140, DL 270 650.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	I've experimented with rolling the bar before a lift and not had much success. I think it probably benefits equipped deads more by stretching the suit slightly thereby allowing the wearer to be in a better position to start the lift.

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