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| tz1127 |  | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 12:39 |
 Member 1419, 2281 posts SQ 175, BP 105, DL 240520.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Just to add Ron didn't wear a bench shirt and have won the ipf worlds 5 or 6 times. The totals aren't comparable, but relative to the standards of their eras, Ron's totals were more impressive IMO - they were WR and IPF winning totals. | ||
| MarkClegg | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 14:28 |
 knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Tom - f**k 2 Weeks off .. i`m "ALL IN" for the Tom Martin Deadlift programme again .. I`ll start Monday . And twice Squatting, Benching too .. We`ll take it on together like we did before this comp came around . I`ve got to get Strong this year and i suppose we can help each other .. | ||
| DavidW | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 17:13 |
140/160 Member 2018, 115 posts | tz1127 said:Just to add Ron didn't wear a bench shirt and have won the ipf worlds 5 or 6 times. The totals aren't comparable, but relative to the standards of their eras, Ron's totals were more impressive IMO - they were WR and IPF winning totals. But Rob is genuinely drug free.... | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 21:36 |
 Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17897 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | DavidW said: tz1127 said:Just to add Ron didn't wear a bench shirt and have won the ipf worlds 5 or 6 times. The totals aren't comparable, but relative to the standards of their eras, Ron's totals were more impressive IMO - they were WR and IPF winning totals. But Rob is genuinely drug free.... Precisely, one has gear on the outside, one has it on the inside. That cancels out in my book | ||
| tz1127 | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 21:39 |
Member 1419, 2281 posts SQ 175, BP 105, DL 240520.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Fatpete said: Precisely, one has gear on the outside, one has it on the inside. That cancels out in my book Just curious, has Ron Collins ever openly admitted to drug use or failed a test? I assume everyone is clean until they fail a test. Although you guys are old and s**t so maybe you can tell us some good anecdotes of the culture of 70s and 80s BWLA. | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 21:44 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | I love my journal... | ||
| tz1127 | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 21:44 |
Member 1419, 2281 posts SQ 175, BP 105, DL 240520.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said:I love my journal... Sorry Tom for cluttering up your log. | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 21:48 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | tz1127 said: Sorry Tom for cluttering up your log. No no, keep going by all means. I'm enjoying reading my journal entries! | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 21:49 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | MarkClegg said:Tom - f**k 2 Weeks off .. i`m "ALL IN" for the Tom Martin Deadlift programme again .. I`ll start Monday . And twice Squatting, Benching too .. We`ll take it on together like we did before this comp came around . I`ve got to get Strong this year and i suppose we can help each other .. Alright we'll figure something out. I'm not sure what the Tom Martin program is at the moment, I think it's basically just squatting a lot. | ||
| bignige1986 | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 21:54 |
 Taleban says his views on women are extreme Member 639, 3518 posts SQ 10, BP 10, DL 1030.0 kgs @ 10kgs Eq | MarkClegg said:Tom - f**k 2 Weeks off .. i`m "ALL IN" for the Tom Martin Deadlift programme again .. I`ll start Monday . And twice Squatting, Benching too .. We`ll take it on together like we did before this comp came around . I`ve got to get Strong this year and i suppose we can help each other .. Just Shhhhhhhhhhhhshhhht !!!!! | ||
| LukeC | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 23:40 |
 The one in the guns and roses teeshirt. Member 171, 2462 posts SQ 272.5, BP 140, DL 245657.5 kgs @ 80.2kgs Eq | Tom_Martin said: Alright we'll figure something out. I'm not sure what the Tom Martin program is at the moment, I think it's basically just squatting a lot. Sounds like a good plan to me Tom. As for the Ron Collins 'debate'...I think everyones points just prove how tough it is to compare people across eras. Same goes for people in all sports. All that is for certain is that Collins was an awesome lifer and Palmer is an awesome lifter. As for that matter is Tom but since he is becoming a big fat 93kg lifter he is out of this debate now  | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 18-02-2011 @ 23:55 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | LukeC said: Sounds like a good plan to me Tom. As for the Ron Collins 'debate'...I think everyones points just prove how tough it is to compare people across eras. Same goes for people in all sports. All that is for certain is that Collins was an awesome lifer and Palmer is an awesome lifter. As for that matter is Tom but since he is becoming a big fat 93kg lifter he is out of this debate now Hey! I'm not even at the top of the 83's yet.... | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 19-02-2011 @ 09:09 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17897 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | tz1127 said: Just curious, has Ron Collins ever openly admitted to drug use or failed a test? I assume everyone is clean until they fail a test. Although you guys are old and s**t so maybe you can tell us some good anecdotes of the culture of 70s and 80s BWLA. Let's just say that if a man is very drunk, you don't need to start taking blood and urine to know that he is very drunk. You do need them to prove that he is drunk, but not to know it. Failure to take said samples does not mean that he was sober but it does mean that he cannot be prosecuted for drunkeness. I have tremendous respect for the old time lifters as I do for the current crop. I was merely pointing out that some comparisons MAY not be as unfair as they seem. I will now cease to ambush Tom's log any longer. | ||
| tz1127 | | ... | 19-02-2011 @ 11:17 |
Member 1419, 2281 posts SQ 175, BP 105, DL 240520.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | Fatpete said: Let's just say that if a man is very drunk, you don't need to start taking blood and urine to know that he is very drunk. You do need them to prove that he is drunk, but not to know it. Failure to take said samples does not mean that he was sober but it does mean that he cannot be prosecuted for drunkeness. I have tremendous respect for the old time lifters as I do for the current crop. I was merely pointing out that some comparisons MAY not be as unfair as they seem. I will now cease to ambush Tom's log any longer. Sorry but this just seem to be a polished up version of the "he's strong so he must be on gear" aka "obvious juicer" arguement. Unless the "symptoms" of "drunkenness" you are referring to are gynecomastia or shrunken testicles rather then amazing strength? This is my last post on this topic too, so lets agree to disagree... | ||
| Steve | | ... | 19-02-2011 @ 11:35 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Fatpete said: Let's just say that if a man is very drunk, you don't need to start taking blood and urine to know that he is very drunk. You do need them to prove that he is drunk, but not to know it. Failure to take said samples does not mean that he was sober but it does mean that he cannot be prosecuted for drunkeness. I have tremendous respect for the old time lifters as I do for the current crop. I was merely pointing out that some comparisons MAY not be as unfair as they seem. I will now cease to ambush Tom's log any longer. Mike Bridges IPF world record (pre modern kit) at 82.5kg was 952.5kg - it would seem perfectly reasonable that 855kg is obtainable drug free, without modern lifting kit by a similarly talented lifter. | ||
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