Paul Savage training log

PaulSavage said:
I have no addictions but poker isnt gambling, course it is doing it that way

PaulSavage said:
Disagree, i would very rarely get stressed selling and some never do, always the better ones. I'm not wrong and i dont mean a script about the product i mean a script that works with people. The best salesman i have ever came across knows very little about what he sells and he is always sell the same exact way.

little_a said:
You're stood on the banks of a North African river mate

PaulSavage said:
This is not the case

little_a said:
You're stood on the banks of a North African river mate

PaulSavage said:
The reason i did that was because at the time i wasnt full time contracted in my day job, only sunday and they cut all my overtime, meaning i was playing poker all week instead, but the they rang out the blue an said they wanted me working through the week again, starting the next day. I didnt have a big enough bankroll to play and cash enough money out to keep playing at high enough stakes so to not go back to work i needed roughly 7.5k.
It was actually more unlucky than it seemed too because i got over that mark the previous hand and meant to click out but i miss clicked the thing and got dealt in.

Wigan said:
Ah, I must be wrong

Luke82 said:
Well you asked to move in and fill the garage with pallets a little while ago didn't you?

Pikefingers said:
Respect your right to disagree, but in this case you're hearing how it is from someone that actually knows how it is.
I wasn't referring to product scripts either (haven't ever heard of such a thing either).
The fact that the guy you know that has little product knowledge also sells a lot is not because some kind of script is doing the work. -It's because he has the communication skills to understand what his customers want to hear and then react to that by putting whatever products/services are on offer with your company into the context of the customer's vision. Sales people are usually not product experts (myself included). "Product flogging" as it's sometimes called is a classic rookie mistake when starting out in sales.
Put in simple terms - people don't buy products, they buy into a vision of what they think that product will mean to them.
Example: when you bought your log, I don't think you bought it because it was a particular colour or X cm long, or because of the knurling on the handles or any other feature. I think you bought it because you bought into the vision of having your own strongman log and how that would help you on your quest to becoming a world-beating 90KG strongman.
Re: your point of "the best salesmen" not getting stressed, that's just not true. The personality type that is best suited to sales is the one that feels the pressure of the targets hanging over him, because that stress motivates him to work harder and achieve more. The same people generally also get just as excited by the buzz of closing a deal as they get stressed when the pressure is on.
I've knocked in my targets by 30 consecutive quarters and done the same in previous jobs, so I know what I'm talking about. -I've also sadly seen a lot of people who haven't made the grade.

MrSmall said:
So basically you gambled instead of working?

PaulSavage said:
Why are you trolling?

PaulSavage said:
No was several days after putting almost everything i had into a poker game, playing for 5 hours, going all in bunch of times, winning over 5k then going all in for 8k with quad jacks and a 97.6% chance of winning over 32k with one card to come and losing.

MrSmall said:
I am not - I have never been anything but respectful in your log, including now. I am just stating the facts as can be seen by everyone else in this log, to underline certain facts and make sure that is what you meant.
If you say you did not have confirmed hours at work, and sat at home playing poker, that does mean you were gambling instead of working. Also it is implied that you did not have a large amount of money at that point as again you were unconfirmed with work, so you were gambling with the limited money that you did have. This is strongly frowned upon by many parties, and is a key sign of gambling addiction, similar to the "that's ok, I will just play again and win it back" for endless cycles.

Lionel_Rich_Tea said:
what did they have?