Paul Savage training log

KevC86 said:I wonder at what point "motivating" someone to do something becomes bullying them to achieve things that you can't achieve yourself.

danbaseley said:"I'll explain the reality to anyone reading this who thinks Becca is some extreme genetic freak an that's what her results come from. Firstly ive trained with and been around plenty of freaks so I know the difference and what top class genetics are."

Okay.

"I can sort of understand this thinking with Becca as honestly I thought she was more of a freak when I first met her and she is definitely a freak in the sense that she is freaky tall and big frame wise."

So, you agree, she is a freak in terms of height, mass and size. Especially on - what was it, 1600 calories a day - and she is clearly in the top 1% of size female wise.

"She also doesn't move around like she weighs what she weighs"

So she is not only freakishly big - but also freakishly athletic for her size. That's a freak right there.

"Probably due to her monster calf's."

That's not how it works. but anyway.

"Natural strength though, which obviously is really important here, it's only her calf's that are naturally strong, and that's probably just because they natural hold so much muscle (but loads of people get this)."

Didn't she squat 200kg prior to meeting you? Also top 1% of all females. Freaky, hey?

"The real top genetic freak athletes are born strong, often have muscular or ripped physiques without ever picking up a weight, respond awesome to training, hardly ever get sore, recover really quick etc thats definitely not everyone that she competes against, not at all (but obviously they take gear so that changes things), the genetics are still nowhere near the men's but it comes from hard hard graft and doing the right things consistently over long periods of time, saying genetics is just a cop out."

Schwarzenegger was weak as a kitten when he started lifting. He used his freaky genetics and married it to hard graft. Voila: the Arnie we all know.
The idea that everyone who is a successful strength athlete is Ed Coan, or Andy Bolton, - and put up massive numbers in the first six months of lifting - is simply not true. Most of them graft for it.
Superheavy strength athletes DON'T tend to have muscly/ripped physiques. They're fat, strong and heavy.

I will concur that mentally and emotionally you probably have a positive effect on her.

However, the issue is that because you are so close to her - and have a long and varied history of denying the bleeding obvious (including denying the laws of thermodynamics) - I don';t feel you are able to objectively view any negative effects that your training might have on this freakish athlete.

Mind you, the good thing about freaks, is that they can often out-perform their diet (1,600 calories) and poor/silly training. But even the best can't consistently out train their recovery.

And that is, essentially, linked to their training programming. And the buck stops with whoever does - or does not - do their programming.

KevC86 said:I wonder at what point "motivating" someone to do something becomes bullying them to achieve things that you can't achieve yourself.

PaulSavage said:
Absolute bo***cks, and you would have f**k all clue because you have never coached her, never been coached by me and have basically zero knowledge about any of this. If you really think someone becomes the best of all time in one sport and one of the best in the world in another drug free in only a couple years with poor coaching you are a complete idiot. If she had the best genetics of all time, which she absolutely doesn't, not even slightly close, but let's say she's even 50% better genetically than she is, that's still never ever happened with anyone and is literally impossible. Even with top 1% genetics you don't get those kind of results without good coaching and programming. This is a fact. The reality, which again you would obviously not know anything about, is that Becca is a nightmare to coach half the time and honestly wouldn't even bother to go the gym much without me, never mind train like she does to be a top strength athlete. She simply doesn't have the motivation on her own, that's the way it is with some people (no I'm not knocking her). No other coach on the planet would coach her through every workout often massively sacrificing there own, changing every weight, setting up every event, make sure she salts every meal, make sure she's always hydrated for training, make sure she always gets as much sleep as she can, giving her regular massage, always researching to try get better, goes over training plans over and over and over to get them right, always makes the correct adjustments at the correct times, always pays attention, literally puts there whole life into coaching her. Would never happen.

PaulSavage said:
I sEeN tHis waS frOm YoU anD dIDn'T BoTHER To ReaD it FIr obvioUS REAsonS bUt did SeE 1600 CaLoRIEs and yeAH your TAlKiNG aBoUt SomEthINg 3 YeaRs AgO when DIeTInG bEfore uK'S.

danbaseley said:
Translation:
The Savage cannot perform the mental gymnastics required to dance his way out of a maze of his own wrongdoing, without fear of being caught in his homespun web of lies at a later date.

RebeccaRoberts said:
For the record, Paul is the complete opposite of a bully. He has selflessly given his all into supporting me in every way possible to fulfil my goals (stress on the word 'MY').
I find all of your comments downright rude and disrespectful. I am consistently improving over the 3.5 years Paul has coached me.
Ive not been on 1600 cals since before uks, im now on probably 3000-3500.
Im putting numbers up amongst the best in the world and doing it NATURALLY which is a testament to Pauls coaching. I am only 24 and been in the sport 3 years so we have plenty of improvements to come.

slimsim said:

However, the points raised are valid and are difficult to refute ie. the meme relating to Paul's post that your CNS is "fried" yet Paul controls your programming. Now unless your CNS has become fried by sitting on the sofa doing nothing, it must be down to your train and therefore Paul's doing, correct?

RebeccaRoberts said:
Nope.
My cns was fried from the 3 competitions i did in 10 days. You do the same and im 1000% sure yours will be too.
Needed to get straight back into training as i have other comps to prepare for, so we did.
Paul had programmed training for that week that i couldnt do because my cns was fried so adapted it. I still got good work in that time and managed to recover my cns (and rehab my glute).
He adapted my training when needed, which a good coach would do.

slimsim said:
I'm afraid I disagree. A good coach wouldn't have entered you into (or would have talked you out of) doing so many comps it did fry your cns.