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LessThanLukeIcon...02-11-2019 @ 15:41 
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AdamT said:
Why does drug free have no relevance?
Or do you mean because it's untested and each athlete has a choice?


The latter.
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...02-11-2019 @ 15:51 
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I think it's relevant from a personal sense of achievement perspective, but possibly not beyond that.
AdamTIcon...02-11-2019 @ 16:13 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:
You on the insulina? Grin


100% not, but a local guy trying to get into strongman has started and his static power has increased loads, especially pressing
LessThanLukeIcon...02-11-2019 @ 16:15 
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Wayne_Cowdrey said:I think it's relevant from a personal sense of achievement perspective, but possibly not beyond that.


Dis true.
AdamTIcon...02-11-2019 @ 16:17 
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Post Edited: 02.11.2019 @ 16:18 PM by AdamT
LessThanLuke said:
The latter.


I see, fair enough!

If it's non tested, it's a level playing field

The only reason I don't deadlift 400kg is because I'm natty lol

If only that were true!
KevC86Icon...02-11-2019 @ 16:57 
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As Luke has covered it means nothing because drug use has no relevance in an untested comp.

Either you use or you dont, the result is the only part that matters. It is infuriating when some people choose to compete untested then say they would have won if X or Y hadn't used drugs.
AdamTIcon...02-11-2019 @ 19:05 
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KevC86 said:As Luke has covered it means nothing because drug use has no relevance in an untested comp.

Either you use or you dont, the result is the only part that matters. It is infuriating when some people choose to compete untested then say they would have won if X or Y hadn't used drugs.


That is very fair mate
RebeccaRobertsIcon...03-11-2019 @ 00:54 
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Post Edited: 03.11.2019 @ 00:55 AM by RebeccaRoberts
I dont care whether you think its "relevant" or not.

I am proud of what i have achieved this weekend considering the circumstances AND being drug free and only 24.

Because lets me honest and not pretend that drugs dont massively help.

Anyone who has anything negative to say can trot on!
Paul_DIcon...03-11-2019 @ 09:24 
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RebeccaRoberts said:I dont care whether you think its "relevant" or not.

I am proud of what i have achieved this weekend considering the circumstances AND being drug free and only 24.

Because lets me honest and not pretend that drugs dont massively help.

Anyone who has anything negative to say can trot on!


Firstly, massive congratulations on your performance so far, no mean feat!

But to have any ‘ill will’ against people that use PEDs in an untested comp is just odd. You’re right, of course they help.... that’s why the top performers are taking them.

If your moral compass/insert other reason here means that you don’t (and won’t) take PEDs, that’s up to you, but if you don’t win or place where you’d like, surely that can’t be the underlying theme reasoning.

I’d go out on a limb (I don’t really lift heavy things and put them down much anymore... so somewhat out of the loop) and suggest that there must be tested comps for open women? Why not go and smash those events (if you aren’t already).

It’s not like winning any of these comps will change the direction of your life financially so really, competing at this level (although impressive) should still just be fun, not a life or death serious business.

But (the TLDR) version. If you WANT this to be the only important thing in life, I guess the suggestion would be; Take drugs, be number 1 in the world across all comps. I’d assume that’s just about the only way to make a meagre living from strongwoman.

If you don’t, just enjoy it. Burn bright for a couple of years then have the realisation that just staying healthy is the priority.
BodIcon...03-11-2019 @ 15:14 
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RebeccaRoberts said:

I am proud of what i have achieved this weekend considering the circumstances AND being drug free and only 24.

Anyone who has anything negative to say can trot on!


What are the ‘Circumstances’ that need to be considered? This isn’t a troll post either, it’s a genuine question. Also, not everything which you perceive as negative, necessarily is. Sometimes it will be, but not always.
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...03-11-2019 @ 17:26 
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Bod said:
What are the ‘Circumstances’ that need to be considered?


Recent illness/injury/CNS issues?
LessThanLukeIcon...03-11-2019 @ 19:32 
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Post Edited: 03.11.2019 @ 19:33 PM by LessThanLuke
RebeccaRoberts said:I dont care whether you think its "relevant" or not.

I am proud of what i have achieved this weekend considering the circumstances AND being drug free and only 24.

Because lets me honest and not pretend that drugs dont massively help.

Anyone who has anything negative to say can trot on!


There are lots of natural girls at Worlds though. You aren't the only one.

You did great this weekend. Don't understand the need for disclaimers.
RebeccaRobertsIcon...03-11-2019 @ 19:48 
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Oh dont get me wrong, i have no ill will against anyone who used PEDs, I just personally find it a greater achievement for myself knowing Ive done it without using anything.

The circumstances are the fact in the last 5 weeks ive trained a handful of times, 2 weeks of which i was bedridden and had 2 proper events sessions for this comp. I failed a 200kg dead miserably 2 weeks ago with a weeks rest from the gym.

Between events ive been coughing up loads of phlegm and i cannot get a full chest of air, so considering the circumstances im happy.

Went into day 3 with the plan to maintain my place or increase it slightly and i did that, started the day in 8th but finished in 7th.
danbaseleyIcon...03-11-2019 @ 21:56 
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Well done on your placing.

No one cares about drugs in untested comps.

Some very VERY strong men take hardly any drugs. Some very VERY strong men take several millilitres a day.

They're not a magic bullet - and I dare say regardless of what people take, the best amount to take is the minimum amount possible to elicit the response required.

You're clearly very strong, but if you compete untested - being drug free doesn't make you a better person.

Let's remember drug tested, doesn't mean drug free: even your coach has repeatedly switched his stance/joked/lied about his PED use.
RebeccaRobertsIcon...03-11-2019 @ 22:18 
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danbaseley said:Well done on your placing.

You're clearly very strong, but if you compete untested - being drug free doesn't make you a better person.


Thanks.

Didnt say I was a better person at all, if you reread my above comment youll see that Happy.

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