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BodIcon...15-01-2013 @ 21:09 
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Tom_Martin said:
This...I wonder if he thought "f**k IT life's too short....I'm taking some gear, might be fun. And you know what, I f**king love competing in cycling too, so I'm going to carry on doing that regardless of the rules. Who gives a f**k... I don't! f**k the lot of you, I'm taking some gear and I'm competing in cycling, that's my choice f**k you."


Pre-cancer as well, if this is correct:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/01/14/oprah-...
GubernatrixIcon...15-01-2013 @ 21:18 
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Boar said:I have that secret race book on my Ipad and was gonna read somthing else next BUT the mighty guber has pushed it to the front !!

You will not regret it!

Just wondering though - after cycling's house of cards has collapsed, which sport will be next? Which sports star will be next? People will see opportunities here.
Tom_MartinIcon...15-01-2013 @ 21:19 
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Post Edited: 15.01.2013 @ 21:20 PM by Tom_Martin
Bod said:
Pre-cancer as well, if this is correct:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/01/14/oprah-...


PRE-cancer?!

Well, this doesn't sound like living life to the max following a near death experience AT ALL then. What a c**t.
BenMacIcon...15-01-2013 @ 22:37 
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Gubernatrix said:
You will not regret it!
Just wondering though - after cycling's house of cards has collapsed, which sport will be next? Which sports star will be next? People will see opportunities here.


Tennis?
tz1127Icon...16-01-2013 @ 02:42 
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Post Edited: 16.01.2013 @ 02:42 AM by tz1127
It doesn't bother me that he "cheated" as its human nature to do whats needed to win and to level the playing field full of cheaters; but he actually went out of his way many times to sue and threaten people who claimed he did (often with good reason as well). Pretty happy he got caught.
CuddlesIcon...16-01-2013 @ 07:38 
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tz1127 said:but he actually went out of his way many times to sue and threaten people who claimed he did


I think this is the issue for a lot of the dislike towards him, particularly amongst cycling fans.

There is a long list of pretty unsavioury behaviour that Lance has been involved in, and much of it is not known by people who dont follow the sport.

I think the issue has led to a lot of people saying some pretty stupid, uninformed comments. Most of which are based around people's own views about PEDs. There seems to be a prevailing attitude amongst some that Lance did 'what was needed', in truth, his behaviour went way beyond that.

There also seems to be the view that because they were all at it, it doesnt matter, that he should be treated the same as everybody else. Well the truth is, many of those that were 'at it' have been investigated, banned, stripped of titles and forced to pay back prize money. Going after Lance is treating him the same.

If he admits it, and then isnt charged with perjury, you could actually make a very strong argument that he is being treated leniently. Everyone remember Marion Jones? She actually spent time inside for testifying that she had not taken PEDs when she had. Lying under oath is a serious crime, whether your LA or some random dude from the street.
CuddlesIcon...16-01-2013 @ 07:39 
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Tom_Martin said:
PRE-cancer?!
Well, this doesn't sound like living life to the max following a near death experience AT ALL then. What a c**t.


I must admit, this made me LOL. Grin
chaosIcon...16-01-2013 @ 09:06 
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Ben_F said:I'd like to know if he started using after he had cancer or was already doing it as I'm interested in the impact the illness had on him and the decisions he made after facing his mortality.


Yes because some of the drugs he's alleged to have taken are known to cause testicle cancer! (I don't know this for fact but cycling nut who I work with and was obsessed with armstrong has done a lot of research on this and told me!)
Ben_FIcon...16-01-2013 @ 10:11 
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chaos said:
Ben_F said:I'd like to know if he started using after he had cancer or was already doing it as I'm interested in the impact the illness had on him and the decisions he made after facing his mortality.


Yes because some of the drugs he's alleged to have taken are known to cause testicle cancer! (I don't know this for fact but cycling nut who I work with and was obsessed with armstrong has done a lot of research on this and told me!)


So maybe his near death epiphany led him to train harder and prepare better... or maybe he didn't have an epiphany and just found he could tolerate more discomfort and pain after going through the cancer treatments?
JCIcon...17-01-2013 @ 16:51 
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Cuddles said:
There seems to be a prevailing attitude amongst some that Lance did 'what was needed', in truth, his behaviour went way beyond that.


And you know this how?

Cuddles said:If he admits it, and then isnt charged with perjury, you could actually make a very strong argument that he is being treated leniently. Everyone remember Marion Jones? She actually spent time inside for testifying that she had not taken PEDs when she had. Lying under oath is a serious crime, whether your LA or some random dude from the street.


Nope! There is a rule in the states that if more than 5 years has lapsed after the crime (murder, rape and a few others are not bound by this rule) ie. lying under oath, you cannot face criminal charges and conviction

Unsuprisingly the 5 years has just recently lapsed IIRC
chaosIcon...17-01-2013 @ 18:06 
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Apparently Oprah was quite surprised by the interview, what that means is anyone's guess? Well find out Monday though
martinbIcon...17-01-2013 @ 18:08 
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chaos said:Apparently Oprah was quite surprised by the interview, what that means is anyone's guess? Well find out Monday though


Its on discovery at 2am I think
unit94Icon...17-01-2013 @ 18:11 
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chaos said:Apparently Oprah was quite surprised by the interview, what that means is anyone's guess? Well find out Monday though


It's on discovery channel at 2am tonight!
drewIcon...17-01-2013 @ 18:23 
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I hear its on discovery at 2am
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Does anyone know what channel this is on and at what time ?

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