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KevC86Icon...09-12-2020 @ 06:03 
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I may have misunderstood the stage they were at, but the point stands: they can approve and use it if they want, despite their EU membership. http://euobserver.com/coronavirus/150228


Yeah, EU requested member states work through the process together, but don't require it.
We chose not to and every other member state has the same option, they simply aren't exercising.
HamIcon...09-12-2020 @ 08:59 
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I can't help but think of a case where the Uk gov approved a drug on evidence that the FDA deemed non sufficient that ended in disaster. Thalidomide.

Good on you folk that are happy taking it for having such confidence in your gov. and I thank you for your service as lab rats. I hope it all works out well and history smiles on you and laughs at me.
WILLSANIcon...09-12-2020 @ 12:45 
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EDCLARKE said:https://www.dmlawfirm.com/crimes-of-covid-vaccine-maker-pfizer-well...

interesting article on some of Pfizer's misdeeds


ho lee fuk. followed up one of the stories mentioned in the article:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/11/pfizer-nigeria-mening...

Pfizer pays out to Nigerian families of meningitis drug trial victims

Pfizer pays compensation to families of four children after 15-year legal battle over controversial drug trial in state of Kano

The parents of four Nigerian children who died of meningitis have become the first winners of a 15-year legal battle against Pfizer over a fiercely controversial drug trial.

The world's biggest research-based pharmaceutical company announced on Thursday that it had made payments of $175,000 (£108,000) to each family. More such compensation settlements are expected to follow.

Pfizer was sued after 11 children died in a clinical trial when the northern state of Kano was hit by Africa's worst ever meningitis epidemic in 1996. A hundred children were given an experimental oral antibiotic called Trovan, while a further hundred received ceftriaxone, the "gold-standard" treatment of modern medicine.

Five children died on Trovan and six on ceftriaxone. But later it was claimed that Pfizer did not have proper consent from parents to use an experimental drug on their children and questions were raised over the documentation of the trial.

Legal action filed against the company alleged that some received a dose lower than recommended, leaving many children with brain damage, paralysis or slurred speech.


could a business in any other industry survive [and thrive apparently] after a scandal like this?
EDCLARKEIcon...09-12-2020 @ 17:13 
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WILLSAN said:
could a business in any other industry survive [and thrive apparently] after a scandal like this?


i followed that one up as well after reading the bit about them breaking international law including the Nuremberg convention , boggles the mind a bit doesn't it.
EDCLARKEIcon...09-12-2020 @ 17:15 
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apparently France has the lowest rate of confidence in the vaccine with only 21 percent of people willing to take it
WILLSANIcon...09-12-2020 @ 21:12 
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dont worry guise. if you become severely disabled by the vaccine you get a one off £120,000 pay off.

https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment?fbclid=IwAR2Ba0muf4vWZpBI...


https://i.giphy.com/media/3Z1basZxa2mGOSPBzR/giphy.webp

A Vaccine Damage Payment can affect benefits and entitlements like:

Income Support
Income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance
Working Tax Credit
Child Tax Credit
Universal Credit
Pension Credit
Housing Benefit
Council Tax Reduction
Employment and Support Allowance


dont complain if it f**ks your benefits tho homie.
lukiIcon...10-12-2020 @ 09:48 
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Post Edited: 10.12.2020 @ 10:14 AM by luki
Pfizer's vaccine now approved in Canada too. They are warning people with allergies to other vaccines previously to avoid it. NI Executive/Hancock saying you'll take what vaccine your given.

Was just reading the Reuteurs article on the EU Medical agency getting hacked. Everyone from North Korea to China being blamed online. Vaccines seems to be a gold rush.
www.reuters.com/article/us-ema-cyber/biontech-says-covid-19...
WILLSANIcon...20-12-2020 @ 21:05 
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I said:
I said:
they alluded to Peter Daszak knowing Shi Zhengli ('bat woman' being investigated by international spies Grin) in the interview so I wondered how well he knew her.
turns out pretty well. he has collaborated with her on a number of papers over the years:
https://europepmc.org/article/pmc/pmc4810638
https://www.c.cdc.gov/eid/article/12/12/06-0401-t1
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/310/5748/676/tab-figures-data
he is president of the ecohealth alliance:
https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/personnel/dr-peter-daszak
ecohealth alliance has been funding the wuhan biolab through an NIH grant. that grant has just been cut off as the biolab is now being investigated by the NIH:
https://nypost.com/2020/04/28/nih-investigating-wuhan-lab-at-center-of-coronavirus-pandemic/
states he has been working with his 'Chinese collaborators for 15 yrs on SARSr-CoVs'on his twitter:
https://twitter.com/PeterDaszak/status/1212018989263720455
I think he might have a conflict of interest.
but I may just be a conspiracy theorist with a propensity for low level crime.
Grin


an addendum to my crackpot theory.

https://usrtk.org/biohazards-blog-index/

EcoHealth Alliance orchestrated key scientists’ statement on “natural origin” of SARS-CoV-2

Emails obtained by U.S. Right to Know show that a statement in The Lancet authored by 27 prominent public health scientists condemning “conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin” was organized by employees of EcoHealth Alliance, a non-profit group that has received millions of dollars of U.S. taxpayer funding to genetically manipulate coronaviruses with scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

The emails obtained via public records requests show that EcoHealth Alliance President Peter Daszak drafted the Lancet statement, and that he intended it to “not be identifiable as coming from any one organization or person” but rather to be seen as “simply a letter from leading scientists”. Daszak wrote that he wanted “to avoid the appearance of a political statement”.

The scientists’ letter appeared in The Lancet on February 18, just one week after the World Health Organization announced that the disease caused by the novel coronavirus would be named COVID-19.

The 27 authors “strongly condemn[ed] conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin,” and reported that scientists from multiple countries “overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife.” The letter included no scientific references to refute a lab-origin theory of the virus. One scientist, Linda Saif, asked via email whether it would be useful “to add just one or 2 statements in support of why nCOV is not a lab generated virus and is naturally occuring? Seems critical to scientifically refute such claims!” Daszak responded, “I think we should probably stick to a broad statement.”


interesting that they felt the need to make this statement as far back as feb 18th.

genuine scientific concern or pr damage control?


hilariously the lancet have set up an 'international task force' to find out where the virus came from headed by....Dr. Peter Daszak, president of EcoHealth Alliance.

https://www.ecohealthalliance.org/2020/11/members-of-the-lancet-cov...

I wonder what they will conclude.

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WILLSANIcon...21-12-2020 @ 22:09 
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9071191/Will-learn-truth-C...

Will we ever learn the truth about China and the pandemic? Two inquiries are 'cloaked in secrecy', WHO lets Beijing vet investigators and it appoints British scientist with links to Wuhan, writes IAN BIRRELL

Explosive emails from a group of top-level scientists and Government doctors in the United States reveal one suggested Covid-19 could have originated from human activities rather than arising naturally from animals.

Another asked if it might have been deliberately engineered.

The documents also show that a key letter sent early in the pandemic from America’s top scientists to the White House had a line deleted that suggested the virus could have been ‘an unintentional release from a laboratory’.

These revelations come as evidence of China’s cover-up grows, alongside fears the World Health Organisation, widely criticised for its failure to challenge Beijing at the start of the pandemic, is letting the regime dictate its inquiry into the origins.

The WHO has allowed China to vet scientists taking part in the probe, while also appointing to its ten-strong team the British charity chief Peter Daszak whose funding for research on bat viruses in a high-security Wuhan laboratory was stopped on safety grounds.


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RickIcon...21-12-2020 @ 23:32 
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Now the Mail have printed it we can be really certain it's a lie.
AdamTIcon...22-12-2020 @ 08:33 
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Prime minister whitty declares whole of England should (will) be in tier 4 for the New Year

National lockdown on way
JonathanIcon...22-12-2020 @ 08:44 
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AdamT said:Prime minister whitty declares whole of England should (will) be in tier 4 for the New Year

National lockdown on way


Oh joy.

It's like the hokie cokie. In out in out etc etc etc
AdamTIcon...22-12-2020 @ 09:55 
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Jonathan said:
Oh joy.
It's like the hokie cokie. In out in out etc etc etc


It is terrible, but we may get used to it lol
billynomatesIcon...22-12-2020 @ 10:16 
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AdamT said:
It is terrible, but we may get used to it lol

Just until the summer hopefully, when the vaccine might be fully rolled out.
In the meantime this new more contagious strain wont make things any easier Unhappy
FatpeteIcon...22-12-2020 @ 10:25 
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AdamT said:
National lockdown on way


Putting things that aren't true doesn't stop them becoming true.

That's a real shame isn't it ?

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