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| Neil |  | ... | 29-05-2007 @ 12:35 |
 For Kettle, For Country! Member 81, 1706 posts SQ 182.5, BP 120, DL 227.5530.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | So what's the difference between a hang pull and a rack pull? | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 29-05-2007 @ 16:47 |
 always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | A rack pull is where you lift the bar off the pins in the power rack, a hang pull is somewhat similar to a power shrug where you keep the bar in your hands and pop the hips, a crude description but if you google it you'll see how it's done. | ||
| Neil | | ... | 29-05-2007 @ 17:28 |
For Kettle, For Country! Member 81, 1706 posts SQ 182.5, BP 120, DL 227.5530.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Didn't think to search for it. I found this:- http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/OlympicLifts/HangPull.html Certainly not what I had in mind! | ||
| Sparrow | | ... | 29-05-2007 @ 18:58 |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | I'd call that a hang high pull as on pulls your arms generally should stay straight(er) | ||
| tokar | | ... | 29-05-2007 @ 21:21 |
 Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 29.05.2007 @ 21:34 PM I suppose that is a high pull of sorts, but when you've only got an empty bar in your hands it's going to go that high. Normally the bar wouldn't go higher than your chest.For a weightlifter a clean deadlift would just be a deadlift. So if you see Little A deadlift, for example, what you will see is the first pull of the clean (unless he's using a mixed grip). The grip is double overhand hooked, the shoulders are over the bar and the lift is fairly slow and controlled off the floor. Some powerlifters deadlift like this - look at Brad Gillingham, for instance: He even has a double overhand (presumably hooked!) grip. Compare this with Benedikt Magnusson, for instance: The shoulders are further back at the beginning, mixed grip, and the lift is all about speed fromn the very beginning. My PL deadlifts are similar to Magnusson's, so I distinguish between a PL deadlift and a clean deadlift. | ||
| tokar | | ... | 29-05-2007 @ 21:42 |
Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | Originally posted by littlegirlbunny... Squats looked really good on Sunday  Thanks Jo! They went well today too in the end. Yesterday and today I had a bit of a twinge in my right lower back. Put some Voltarol on it yesterday and today but was a bit worried I wouldn't be able to squat or deadlift. But as so often happened, I did a thorough warm up, got started and it was fine. Left out the deads anyway as a precaution but it actually feels much better now than it did before I trained. Massage tomorrow as well. 29/5/07 Squat 70x5x2, 100x5, 120x3, 140x5x8 Sets 5-7 were really quite easy. I reckon I could even go up to 145 next week if I wanted. But I'm not going to. Bench Press 60x5, 80x3, 100x3, 110x1, 120x3x6 Also excellent. First two on every set were really fast, and every set was pretty easy - fairly short rests too. Machine Row 127.5x5, 135x5, 142.5x5, 135x5x6 Had to do something to replace DL and this seemed a good idea, since I was restricted to the s**tty Sugden one on Friday. I'm in a slight quandary about my bench press now. There are three options (bearing in ming squat and deadlift after this week are going to be singles and doubles working up to near maxes in the 4th week): 1) As squat and deadlift. This was the original plan. 2) Just carry on up - 125x3x6 (or 2s if necessary); 130x2x6 etc. 3) Take a step back and then go up again - 115x3x6; 120x3x6, 125x3x6 There's no particular reason not to go with 1) except that the progress has been so good I feel like I ought to continue with it and lay down some more basic strength before working up to a max. | ||
| tokar | | ... | 29-05-2007 @ 23:04 |
Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | By the way, anyone of us who were at the first Salford Muscletalk meet-up a couple of years ago might remember Chez (aka Mark) who used to be on MT and has recently joined Total Fitness in Wilmslow. Apparently he saw Robbie Savage there the other week - doing curls in the squat rack!  | ||
| Wogihao | | ... | 30-05-2007 @ 00:04 |
 Has turned into a fucking nobhead - any guesses as to what caused it ?? Member 30, 520 posts SQ 185, BP 160, DL 200545.0 kgs @ 91kgs UnEq | I see your doing clean deadlifts, if you want i can send you a dvd of the ironmind china video its realy good. loads of olympic training footage. thats nice work by the way, 200+ on clean deadlifts is no mean feat!!!:cool | ||
| Neil | | ... | 30-05-2007 @ 14:02 |
For Kettle, For Country! Member 81, 1706 posts SQ 182.5, BP 120, DL 227.5530.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Thanks for taking the time to explain the difference between clean and PL deadlift. | ||
| tokar | | ... | 30-05-2007 @ 21:21 |
Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | Originally posted by Wogihao... I see your doing clean deadlifts, if you want i can send you a dvd of the ironmind china video its realy good. loads of olympic training footage. thats nice work by the way, 200+ on clean deadlifts is no mean feat!!!:cool Is that the one with Dimas, Botev et al? I would love a copy of that mate. | ||
| Wogihao | | ... | 30-05-2007 @ 22:05 |
Has turned into a fucking nobhead - any guesses as to what caused it ?? Member 30, 520 posts SQ 185, BP 160, DL 200545.0 kgs @ 91kgs UnEq | yea thats the one, 95 i think. PM me your address and i will send it to you. | ||
| tokar | | ... | 01-06-2007 @ 07:25 |
Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | 31/5/07 Squat 70x5, 100x5, 120x3, 140x5x8 Bench Press 60x5, 80x4, 100x3, 120x3x5 Deadlift 70x5, 110x3, 150x3, 185x5x3 Ow. Didn't finish deadlifts cos back was really sore. I don't think it's anything a couple of days rest won't fix - it was annoying not to get all the reps in on the last day though, especially as the squats were quite easy. Definitely another week in those if I wanted to do it, but I must restrain myself. Next time I'll go up to 150. | ||
| tokar | | ... | 04-06-2007 @ 22:47 |
Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 04.06.2007 @ 22:48 PM 1/6/07Bit of a s**t session today. OH Press 40x5, 50x3, 60x3, 70x1, 77.5x1x5, 67.5x6, 5, 5 Pulldown (neutral) 120x6, 5, 5 Machine Row 120x10x3 | ||
| tokar | | ... | 04-06-2007 @ 22:51 |
Невыносимо Высокомерный (RIP) Member 11, 965 posts SQ 190, BP 140, DL 255585.0 kgs @ 95kgs UnEq | 4/6/07 Squat 70x5, 100x3, 120x2, 140x1, 160x1x2 Pretty solid start to the singles. Should get easier the next couple of weeks. Bench Press 60x5, 80x3, 100x3, 115x2, 125x2x6 Really good stuff. Could have had 3 reps on any of the sets - should be good for 130 for doubles next week. DB OH Press 20s x 18, 13, 13 Pull-up BW x 16, 16, 15 Starting light on the assistance and winding it up over the next 12 weeks. 5kg a week and I should be doing +55kg on the pull-ups 2 weeks out from the British. | ||
| littlegirlbunny | | ... | 05-06-2007 @ 14:55 |
 MIA Member 7, 621 posts SQ 80, BP 45, DL 125250.0 kgs @ 55kgs UnEq | +55 kg on chins will be pretty impressive! Bet it feels weird doing that kind of low volume on squats after the last 4 weeks! | ||
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