Do drugs improve sporting performance?
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| chaos |  | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 15:59 |
 An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | and fries, and onion rings, and 2 dozen other sides and a whole vanilla double choc cheesecake to yourself! Fat fook  | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 15:59 |
 Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | chaos said:and fries, and onion rings, and 2 dozen other sides and a whole vanilla double choc cheesecake to yourself! Fat fook Jealousy is bad | ||
| chaos | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:00 |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | brownbear said: Jealousy is bad yup! | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:02 |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | chaos said: yup! What was this thread about? Diabetes? Drugs? Burgers? I don't remember | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:20 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | JC said: Ppl (non diabetics) who dable in insulin are moronic IMO....... Someone pretty close to me used to be Head of Drug Metabolism and Pharmakokinetics (sp?) at a large multinational pharmaceutical company. He had the same sentiments, only his were regarding steroidal PEDS. I must admit, that I agree with the idea that most drugs if used sensibly and under supervision are going to be fairly safe. I do also think that the average person hasn't got a f**king clue of the risks and dangers other than what they have read 3rd hand on the internet. And we all know how reliable that is. | ||
| slimsim | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:24 |
My asshole is not watertight. Member 2926, 6050 posts SQ 217.5, BP 107.5, DL 225550.0 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | Cuddles said: Someone pretty close to me used to be Head of Drug Metabolism and Pharmakokinetics (sp?) at a large multinational pharmaceutical company. He had the same sentiments, only his were regarding steroidal PEDS. I must admit, that I agree with the idea that most drugs if used sensibly and under supervision are going to be fairly safe. I do also think that the average person hasn't got a f**king clue of the risks and dangers other than what they have read 3rd hand on the internet. And we all know how reliable that is. I'd say JC was spot on with his comment. The potential risks of using insulin without medical supervision/knowledge are immediate. I know one person who became diabetic due to using insulin as a PED. He has never had any formal advice on controlling his diabetes and regularly use to go hypo in the gym. Another person I know fell into a diabetic coma by injecting a few too many IU's and not getting enough carbs into them. Luckily for him he was found soon after he went under. Insulin and bloody doping are probably 2 of the most risk aspects of performance enhancing drug use, yet everyone seems to focus on the health risks of steroids  | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:32 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | slimsim said: I'd say JC was spot on with his comment. The potential risks of using insulin without medical supervision/knowledge are immediate. I know one person who became diabetic due to using insulin as a PED. He has never had any formal advice on controlling his diabetes and regularly use to go hypo in the gym. Another person I know fell into a diabetic coma by injecting a few too many IU's and not getting enough carbs into them. Luckily for him he was found soon after he went under. Insulin and bloody doping are probably 2 of the most risk aspects of performance enhancing drug use, yet everyone seems to focus on the health risks of steroids I didn't contradict JC's statement in anyway shape or form. I was merely saying that some people have the same attitude about drugs that according to the internet are 'safe'. I think f**king around with insulin is barmy. And I am not exactly adverse to doing things that society would consider unsafe... | ||
| BigMacca | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:36 |
 understanding of the sport, little he has. Member 798, 9943 posts SQ 260, BP 150, DL 272.5682.5 kgs @ 82.5kgs UnEq | Cuddles said: I didn't contradict JC's statement in anyway shape or form. I was merely saying that some people have the same attitude about drugs that according to the internet are 'safe'. I think f**king around with insulin is barmy. And I am not exactly adverse to doing things that society would consider unsafe... http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R5gBh8NqzXY/TVGHib8aneI/AAAAAAAAARo/... | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:38 |
 Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | brownbear said: Asian and Afro carribean people's pancreas just seem to give in earlier plus worse dietary habits Never had any diabetes in our family, heart disease/attacks seems to be the main cause of death. Since I probably won't live that long, you'd think I may as well start slamming a bunch of test and dbols  | ||
| Fazc | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:40 |
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts | Post Edited: 24.04.2012 @ 16:40 PM by Fazc What you can't see is this guy is actually sitting on a stationary bike... | ||
| TravisFandango | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:52 |
Member 1093, 5446 posts SQ 160, BP 105, DL 225490.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | I am utterly convinced that not all drugs increase sporting performance, and some hinder walking and even occasionally crawling... And thinking... And sometimes being able to see things... And sometimes seeing things that aren't real things. In fact, I would have thought that most drugs should be avoided when partaking in sport. | ||
| chaos | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 16:53 |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | TravisFandango said:I am utterly convinced that not all drugs increase sporting performance, and some hinder walking and even occasionally crawling... And thinking... And sometimes being able to see things... And sometimes seeing things that aren't real things. In fact, I would have thought that most drugs should be avoided when partaking in sport. You still on the space cadet pills? | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 21:31 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Oh and if you want to see a performance enhancing drug that works take a look at EPO. Athletes have talked about having to back off from what they were capable of for fear of it being too obvious they were using. f**k all use to lifters and stupidly dangerous mind you. | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 21:32 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Cuddles said:Oh and if you want to see a performance enhancing drug that works take a look at EPO. Athletes have talked about having to back off from what they were capable of for fear of it being too obvious they were using. f**k all use to lifters and stupidly dangerous mind you. I have research to be doing! | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 21:37 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Tom_Martin said: I have research to be doing! I believe the effects are only really of benefit in true endurance events mate... | ||