Do drugs improve sporting performance?
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| JC |  | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:18 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Terminator said: Really? I would have thought that NHS GP's would have taken a pretty dim view on PED use and be reluctant to encourage / help users. Most elite athletes will have access to a GP...they wont be NHS though I doubt | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:22 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Terminator said: Really? I would have thought that NHS GP's would have taken a pretty dim view on PED use and be reluctant to encourage / help users. If that is the case, then it is disgusting. If someone smokes themselves to cancer, a doctor doesn't turn him away and said you got yourself into this mess, f**k you. If you take gear, run into complications and require medical assistance, you should be just as entitled as above smoker to treatment. | ||
| martinb | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:25 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: Terminator said: Really? I would have thought that NHS GP's would have taken a pretty dim view on PED use and be reluctant to encourage / help users. If that is the case, then it is disgusting. If someone smokes themselves to cancer, a doctor doesn't turn him away and said you got yourself into this mess, f**k you. If you take gear, run into complications and require medical assistance, you should be just as entitled as above smoker to treatment. Just the other day my GP asked if I take gear, and offered me blood work, advice, any support I needed | ||
| Terminator | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:27 |
 jerking is obviously great, Member 2521, 4721 posts SQ 235, BP 160, DL 290685.0 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: If that is the case, then it is disgusting. If someone smokes themselves to cancer, a doctor doesn't turn him away and said you got yourself into this mess, f**k you. If you take gear, run into complications and require medical assistance, you should be just as entitled as above smoker to treatment. If you have a BMI over 30 then they are reluncant to give treatment for some operations I believe? But yeah, I agree with your point | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:28 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | martinb said: Just the other day my GP asked if I take gear, and offered me blood work, advice, any support I needed Awesome! | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:29 |
 he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: Terminator said: Really? I would have thought that NHS GP's would have taken a pretty dim view on PED use and be reluctant to encourage / help users. If that is the case, then it is disgusting. If someone smokes themselves to cancer, a doctor doesn't turn him away and said you got yourself into this mess, f**k you. If you take gear, run into complications and require medical assistance, you should be just as entitled as above smoker to treatment. I agree with you Tom, it would be a complete double standard. I have heard of a few scenarios, one where someone asked the doc if they would do regular bloods for him as he was going to be using peds, and the doc said he understood and he would like to help, put it breached their ethics practice and another who had a doc ask if they used peds and despite them not aking anything, offered to do bloods etc if they ever started to. Seems to be a bit of a postcode lottery. | ||
| JC | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:29 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: martinb said: Just the other day my GP asked if I take gear, and offered me blood work, advice, any support I needed Awesome! x2 | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:29 |
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | martinb said: Just the other day my GP asked if I take gear, and offered me blood work, advice, any support I needed And that would be the person in my 2nd reference  | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:30 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Terminator said: If you have a BMI over 30 then they are reluncant to give treatment for some operations I believe? But yeah, I agree with your point 30 isn't even a high BMI, mine is 30 and I'm f**king skinny! Yet my doctor still wants me to lose weight. | ||
| brownbear | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:32 |
 Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | Terminator said: If you have a BMI over 30 then they are reluncant to give treatment for some operations I believe? But yeah, I agree with your point Bulls**t Whether you're too fat for an operation or not ia based on your peri-operative risk and how likely you are to run in to a complication during the operation, not cause youre not allowed it due to obesity | ||
| martinb | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:32 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: 30 isn't even a high BMI, mine is 30 and I'm f**king skinny! Yet my doctor still wants me to lose weight. mine is 37, the same doc with the blood work just complimented me on my build, haha | ||
| JC | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:33 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | brownbear said: Bulls**t Whether you're too fat for an operation or not ia based on your peri-operative risk and how likely you are to run in to a complication during the operation, not cause youre not allowed it due to obesity I was sent to a private hospital re my shoulder they wouldnt even give me a scan due to my BMI | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:35 |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | JC said: I was sent to a private hospital re my shoulder they wouldnt even give me a scan due to my BMI Mark had this same problem, and it was one of a few reasons given to me as to why I wouldn't be allowed a scan on the NHS. Ludicrous. | ||
| davycummings | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:37 |
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Tom_Martin said: 30 isn't even a high BMI, mine is 30 and I'm f**king skinny! Yet my doctor still wants me to lose weight. This is another thing that varies from doc to doc it seems. Mine is quite happy with my weight (well, accepting at least) and does not try to encourage me to lose weight (only my family do this  ) | ||
| Ben_F | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 14:39 |
 vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350855.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | martinb said: you could indeed be correct, but I've seen other interviews where Mike blames the gear I blame his ludicrous calves sucking all the blood away from his heart!  | ||