Do drugs improve sporting performance?
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| Stetec |  | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 12:40 |
 Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts | PED's don't add talent or ability, but will increase strength, aggression, muscle mass (if eating correctly) and acne/water retention/man boobs. So if those things are your goals then yes drugs improve your performance | ||
| sexymikehowarth | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 12:45 |
 Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | Tom_Martin said:it's not fair to let someone win because he was willing to take more of a health risk than someone else. This is an interesting point... | ||
| martinb | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 12:47 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | sexymikehowarth said: Tom_Martin said:it's not fair to let someone win because he was willing to take more of a health risk than someone else. This is an interesting point... this is pretty much how I look at people who take PEDS | ||
| Tom_Martin | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 12:48 |
 No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | sexymikehowarth said: This is an interesting point... And a completely different topic really, I should rephrase though. IS it fair to let someone lose because they weren't willing to take the same health risk as someone else? AND why does this only pertain to substances taken? Lifting heavy weights is a pretty huge health risk in itself, therefor the above statement could apply to training harder. From personal experience, it seems more f**king dangerous to try and lift heavy while clean! | ||
| sexymikehowarth | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 12:53 |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | Indeed a separate subject But in some sports the danger is one of the fundamental attractions and defining limitations Strictely skelingtonbob racing in ice Boxing That game flash gordon did in the film | ||
| JC | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:04 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | martinb said: sexymikehowarth said: Tom_Martin said:it's not fair to let someone win because he was willing to take more of a health risk than someone else. This is an interesting point... this is pretty much how I look at people who take PEDS Given the athletes access to doctors, I would say the health risks are minimal (or can/should be identified before it becomes a problem...) | ||
| Steve | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:06 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | sexymikehowarth said: Tom_Martin said:it's not fair to let someone win because he was willing to take more of a health risk than someone else. This is an interesting point... Agreed - when testing was brought in it was to protect athletes. Before it people had died through drug use. It shouldn't be a case of the person willing to take the biggest risk coming out on top. | ||
| leeboy | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:09 |
 do i love snipers? hellyeah Member 2025, 883 posts | what exactly would happen if they let athletes do what they want? would they be dropping dead by 35? | ||
| Steve | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:10 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | JC said: Given the athletes access to doctors, I would say the health risks are minimal (or can/should be identified before it becomes a problem...) Depends on the sport - I don't suppose there are many power lifters out there getting regular health check ups. Also whilst steroids may not be an acute health risk, removing testing also opens up the use of stimulant use which has been shown to have great risks especially in endurance type events. | ||
| JC | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:11 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | leeboy said:what exactly would happen if they let athletes do what they want? would they be dropping dead by 35? No! BB do as they want...in recent times, I think only Flex Wheeler has been seriously ill As I said, with regular GP visits, any negative side effect can de bnipped in the bud/usage stopped | ||
| sexymikehowarth | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:11 |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | Steve said: It shouldn't be a case of the person willing to take the biggest risk coming out on top. To an extent this is human nature Aside from substance misuse fighting sports such as boxing and MDMA will be ultimately had victories and success with this precise sacrifice I'm not saying its a good thing though | ||
| JC | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:12 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Steve said: Depends on the sport - I don't suppose there are many power lifters out there getting regular health check ups. Also whilst steroids may not be an acute health risk, removing testing also opens up the use of stimulant use which has been shown to have great risks especially in endurance type events. Sorry Steve, I was referring more to "elite athletes" Also, any Tom, Dick or Harry can have a well man test from the GP, were EVERYTHING is checked | ||
| sexymikehowarth | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:12 |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | JC said: No! BB do as they want...in recent times, I think only Flex Wheeler has been seriously ill As I said, with regular GP visits, any negative side effect can de bnipped in the bud/usage stopped This | ||
| martinb | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:14 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | leeboy said:what exactly would happen if they let athletes do what they want? would they be dropping dead by 35? sorry for how vague this is but at the Sydney Olympics some university did an anonymous poll at the athletes village, asking if they could give the athlete a drug right now, that was completely undetectable, but would guarantee them gold in their event, BUT they would be dead 1 year later, would they take it? Something like over 60% said yes again, just from memory at the time | ||
| martinb | | ... | 24-04-2012 @ 13:15 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | JC said: No! BB do as they want...in recent times, I think only Flex Wheeler has been seriously ill As I said, with regular GP visits, any negative side effect can de bnipped in the bud/usage stopped I used to follow BB quite closely, and there were MUCH more health problems than just Flex Wheelers kineys dead/dying bodybuilders were common news | ||