Do drugs improve sporting performance?
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| JC |  | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 11:49 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | steve32 said:drug free and proud Awesome, I'm ecstatic for you! Re Martins point of all top level athletes being on the sauce, I genuinely dont think Usain Bolt is, I just think he's one of lifes freaks! Maybe I'm being a tad naive!? | ||
| martinb | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 11:55 |
 Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | JC said: Awesome, I'm ecstatic for you! Re Martins point of all top level athletes being on the sauce, I genuinely dont think Usain Bolt is, I just think he's one of lifes freaks! Maybe I'm being a tad naive!? why is that? because Jamaica didn't have out of season drug testing until recently(not sure if they do now, but they didn't)? because some of his team mates have failed drugs tests recently? because so many Jamacan woman sprinters wear braces at 25 years old(apparently gaps in your teeth is a tell tail sign of growth) or is it in all honestly, because he's tall? | ||
| Steve | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 11:56 |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | JC said: Re Martins point of all top level athletes being on the sauce, I genuinely dont think Usain Bolt is, I just think he's one of lifes freaks! Maybe I'm being a tad naive!? I would also like to believe this. I know it doesn't prove anything, but he really doesn't appear that strong compared to other sprinters I'd also like to think the British cyclists success was due to science of training and equipment as opposed to other banned methods. | ||
| stephen | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 12:01 |
knows some really strong guys Member 323, 1436 posts SQ 305, BP 200, DL 285790.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Post Edited: 25.04.2012 @ 19:00 PM by stephen Steve said: How many Olympic medalists at the strength, power and endurance events will be drug free? If you mean life time drug free then IMO none. Reading some of the comments about ped taking you to your natural limit quicker????....From seeing and speaking to others who use ped then it is pretty clear that they make you in effect super human and increase your performance/strength/what ever way above what an individual would achieve naturally. | ||
| JC | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 12:06 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | martinb said: why is that? because Jamaica didn't have out of season drug testing until recently(not sure if they do now, but they didn't)? because some of his team mates have failed drugs tests recently? because so many Jamacan woman sprinters wear braces at 25 years old(apparently gaps in your teeth is a tell tail sign of growth) or is it in all honestly, because he's tall? What his Jamaican contempories do is neither here nor there. Chambers was full of it...doesnt mean Cambell et al were also There isnt any logic to my thinking...I just think he's an absolute freak But then again, I may have thought the same about Ben Johnson in the 80s  | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 12:12 |
 Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Steve said: I'd also like to think the British cyclists success was due to science of training and equipment as opposed to other banned methods. It's very conceivable and significantly more so than lots of people would like you to believe. I wouldn't want to say either way, as I, like everyone other than the athletes and those closest to them, haven't got a f**king clue. I certainly dont think there is some sort of state sponsored cycling drugs programme like many would have you believe. | ||
| Cuddles | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 12:14 |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | slimsim said: Playing devils advocate here.......knowing what you know about the prevalence of drugs in most strength based sports why would it surprise you so much when he is running so fast? Is it just because you don't want to think of him being on due to his age, his general nature, upbringing etc etc Personally, thinking of young athletes who've not even finished growing taking exogenous hormones doesn't sit very well with me and this is the reason why an untested Olympics would never happen. It's nothing more than hunch, experience and knowing the kid to be honest, so hardly the most scientific of reasoning. Oh, the fact that he has never failed a drugs test helps | ||
| martinb | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 12:14 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | JC said: What his Jamaican contempories do is neither here nor there. Chambers was full of it...doesnt mean Cambell et al were also There isnt any logic to my thinking...I just think he's an absolute freak But then again, I may have thought the same about Ben Johnson in the 80s But Dwain trained in America, this is the group of guys Bolt trains with Yeah, its one of those things, that the guy who is the best, you just sort of want him to be different, somehow, haha With him people justify it because he is tall (like nobody tall has ever tried to run fast), so what to his teammate who won the worlds, and has beat him recently, but is sub 6 foot, why is he so fast? | ||
| chaos | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 12:19 |
 An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | JC said: What his Jamaican contempories do is neither here nor there. Chambers was full of it...doesnt mean Cambell et al were also Its Campbell!  | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 14:12 |
 Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | steve32 said:drug free and proud Life time drug free until I'm strong enough to take peds and proud | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 14:13 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | when i first read the title i thought it said 'do shrugs improve sporting performance?'. that would be more interesting | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 14:15 |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | The only famous super star I think never used was Lance Armstrong... And I still think I'm being naïve. | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 14:35 |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Somebody from the british bobsleigh team has tested positive according to bbc. | ||
| martinb | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 14:36 |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | thosebananas said:Somebody from the british bobsleigh team has tested positive according to bbc. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-sports/17787655 those guys can be VERY strong and fast | ||
| Robbo | | ... | 25-04-2012 @ 14:44 |
 When I have enough cash, I get a deep tissue. Member 465, 11029 posts SQ 240, BP 175, DL 302.5717.5 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | martinb said: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/winter-sports/17787655 those guys can be VERY strong and fast Competed against a bobsleigh guy in a novice comp, he had never laid hands on a event, handed mine, nialls, and Luke fullbrookes arse to us! | ||