U.S vs U.K Strongman Scene
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| ystradboy79 |  | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 13:42 |
 Chris 'The Magician' Melling Member 1443, 978 posts SQ 270, BP 180, DL 320770.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq | If youve had your custom made kit stolen by metal thieves whilst preparing for wsm do you get a qually spot?  | ||
| Luke27 | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 13:45 |
 lets get learning !!! Member 1598, 723 posts SQ 210, BP 130, DL 200540.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | Gingy said: I'm afraid I don't necessarily agree. Most of the people I've ever spoken to have no idea how to relate to how heavy these things are (other than they are all "heavy")that you guys can move around. I find it sooooooo much more interesting and entertaining because I have my own little PBs that I can compare. If people had participated at some point in even something similar then it's much easier to relate and enjoy. Not sure they need to relate, just be capitvated. My dad never lifted anything heavy yet he Adored watching Geoff Capes and the other and found it very entertaining. But i also agree with higher participation rates , increases intrest and amount of money that can be earned, therefore more comps , coverage and money. | ||
| chaos | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 13:48 |
 An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Luke27 said: Not sure they need to relate, just be capitvated. My dad never lifted anything heavy yet he Adored watching Geoff Capes and the other and found it very entertaining. But i also agree with higher participation rates , increases intrest and amount of money that can be earned, therefore more comps , coverage and money. Agree, I got into strongman (watching and always wanted to do it) when I was a kid and didn't have a clue how heavy stuff was but I could see it was big and awkward and only monsters could shift it! | ||
| Mike_Neale | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 14:13 |
 Member 2276, 514 posts SQ 240, BP 195, DL 260695.0 kgs @ 79kgs UnEq | with regards to the uk vs usa subject and why they might be pumping out more monster freak athletes than us, you have to address the fact that, plain and simple, they have more people to choose from than us. if the rule says that, for every 60million people (population of britain), you get two Terry and Loz super freak athletes, well USA has 300million people so they get 10 guys (and i actually dont think that they do have 10 guys of Terry and Lozs standard, but it might be near that). so the size of the population does have to be considered. but i cant think of one possible downside to having a MUCH better competition system in this country, if or no other reason than it gives the existing guys more exposure and potential to earn money. i even bored myself writing that first part ! | ||
| Luke27 | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 15:22 |
lets get learning !!! Member 1598, 723 posts SQ 210, BP 130, DL 200540.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | I think population will have a massive effect on the output yet it does not replace a brilliant development systems such as Bulgarian WL, Jamcian Sprinting. the USSR and China (whilst having huge populations) produced some of the best athletes ever becuase of their systems. At my Uni we have a Chinese badminton player only plays for his province, and he killed like the 7th or 8th best in the UK. He was shocked at what our level of badminton was and only suffered one defeat since being in England against an Indonisan international. Just used this story to illustrate the development and exposure is massively important (and hes definately not on PEDS )So surely therefore if we increase the exposure and invovlement of Strongman, get good coaches and a good development system, then it can only improve the quality. | ||
| JC | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 15:28 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Luke27 said: So surely therefore if we increase the exposure and invovlement of Strongman, get good coaches and a good development system, then it can only improve the quality. You talk about Jamaican sprinting, Bulgurian, USSR & Chinese WL for example....all benefit from a high level of government funding Strongman will never be governemnet funded. Finding enough sponsors, memberes etc to support such a structure is a massive ask I see no evidence that the US structure is producing a massive amount of potential WSM winners when compared to the UK and other European countries, when taking population figures into account (all IMO) | ||
| stainless | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 15:40 |
Big fan of TWI Member 761, 425 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 260645.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq | terryhollands said:There will be a qualifier for wsm for the Brits and there will be no free rides for people this year. A giants live british wsm qual. I will be doing it along with loz, Felix etc. Great chance for guys to prove themselves. Top 5 will be at wsm Brilliant news. | ||
| fong | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 15:53 |
 really really interesting Member 3474, 2816 posts SQ 170, BP 120, DL 260550.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 06.03.2012 @ 15:54 PM by fong Mike_Neale said:with regards to the uk vs usa subject and why they might be pumping out more monster freak athletes than us, you have to address the fact that, plain and simple, they have more people to choose from than us. if the rule says that, for every 60million people (population of britain), you get two Terry and Loz super freak athletes, well USA has 300million people so they get 10 guys (and i actually dont think that they do have 10 guys of Terry and Lozs standard, but it might be near that). so the size of the population does have to be considered. but i cant think of one possible downside to having a MUCH better competition system in this country, if or no other reason than it gives the existing guys more exposure and potential to earn money. i even bored myself writing that first part ! Lithuania is tiny yet spits out multiple incredible strength athletes. i don't think population really speaks volumes here. | ||
| terryhollands | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 16:05 |
 9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts | fong said: Lithuania is tiny yet spits out multiple incredible strength athletes. i don't think population really speaks volumes here. popularity is the more important factor and as i said earlier guys have been trying to chase z for years which helps! they have a number of televised comps throughout the year that all the top guys compete in! we don't have that at the moment. also many of the top guys over there train together | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 16:07 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | fong said: Lithuania is tiny yet spits out multiple incredible strength athletes. i don't think population really speaks volumes here. I was going to post this! they had 3 athletes at wsm, and got 2 in the final with blekaitis only just missing out. population of 3.2 million. I think we should find out what they are doing there! | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 16:23 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22063 posts | WILLSAN said: I was going to post this! they had 3 athletes at wsm, and got 2 in the final with blekaitis only just missing out. population of 3.2 million. I think we should find out what they are doing there! They are all zerchering! | ||
| nick | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 16:28 |
finally got a tagline Member 1190, 2812 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 350850.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | considering iceland only has 300,000 people, whatever they do seems to have produced many great strength athletes over the years | ||
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| ursus | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 17:01 |
 Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq | nick said:considering iceland only has 300,000 people, whatever they do seems to have produced many great strength athletes over the years "from the eighth to eleventh centuries ,marauding vikings travelled along the coastlines of northern Europe,known and feared for their ferrocity and physical might. They sailed in their longboats powered by mighty oarsmen who sat in places according to their strength.To determine their respective abilities,oarsmen had to lift huge graded rocks,very like McGlashen stones and the larger the rocks they liftd the more prestigious the seat they held on the longship" Their lifestyles and dealth tolls caused selective breeding which is inherited by the purebred inhabitants of today,producing more genetically gifted athletes per head than any other country in the world. The boys are brought up on stories of heroism and sagas of Viking legacy . The land is harsh and has very few flat plains so team games are replaced with solo games such as lifting or throwing.This arguably produces a hungrier solo athlete rather than a half arsed team player who only has to play at 60% then rely on the rest of the team for support? | ||
| danbaseley | | ... | 06-03-2012 @ 17:12 |
 A member for 10 years and still no mouldy peanuts Member 1252, 4481 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 215485.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | ursus said:a half arsed team player who only has to play at 60% then rely on the rest of the team for support? That's how I made it into the first team. | ||