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David | ... | 11-09-2007 @ 16:04 | |
I ♥ Dr. Gillian McKeith Member 17, 742 posts SQ 0, BP 180, DL 0180.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | I cant see how hammer curls could help your bench Its more confusing if Martin said it because i think he does shirted benching too and from what i hear big forearms are a hinderance to getting on a tight shirt? | ||
tbench | ... | 11-09-2007 @ 16:12 | |
addicted to bench press, needs help Member 80, 1384 posts SQ 175, BP 160, DL 240575.0 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | i found the post where Martin reccomended hammer curls. Re: toms,aka,t,bench training log. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Impressed with that close grip benching, mate. Awesome. What type of curls do you do? Most of the big benchers recommend hammer curls as assistance for benching, because they focus more on developing the brachialis, which is called upon during the lift more than the biceps is. | ||
Icepick | ... | 11-09-2007 @ 17:13 | |
still a cock Member 55, 1213 posts SQ 50, BP 25, DL 55130.0 kgs @ 0.1kgs UnEq | Well for me, heavy benching really killed the tendons on my forearms and biceps, I was only able to bench again after I started doing reverse curls and hammer curls. | ||
Carl | ... | 11-09-2007 @ 18:02 | |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | interesting it seems to be something you need to do if it's a weakness, as icepick had, i cant see someone saying there hammer curl has gone up 5kg and this transferring to there bench, in the same way as say chins | ||
Icepick | ... | 11-09-2007 @ 18:13 | |
still a cock Member 55, 1213 posts SQ 50, BP 25, DL 55130.0 kgs @ 0.1kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 11.09.2007 @ 18:15 PM not really, you don't have to wait it becomes a weakness before you do it, they are very good in maintaining good health in the elbows, tendons, joints, etc. and yes it's not going to put 5kg on your bench but you wait and watch your bench go down the drain once something as little as an elbow start hurting. I wouldnt go crazy on the curls either, just a couple of sets a week just for good measure. | ||
Rick | ... | 11-09-2007 @ 22:37 | |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Honestly, bicep tendon pain on the bench is an absolute f**king bas***d of a thing. If hammer curls and reverse curls fixed it for you, Icepick, I'm gonna try 'em, and if they work I shall build a little shrine to you. I don't get a bad attack all that often, but when it is bad I could no more lower the bar under control than fly. | ||
Carl | ... | 12-09-2007 @ 00:38 | |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | icepick, if you worked every single part of every single exercise, you would never leave the gym, thats why i think it would only be useful if it became a problem for you, i cant see curls helping the bench press, apart from if you establish it as a problem like you had and rick has. | ||
Cuddles | ... | 12-09-2007 @ 08:51 | |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | I'll throw more support to the hammer curls wagon. Light, high rep hammer curls are great re-hab for sore elbows, especially elbows that get sore from pressing. Im not sure about you guys but id rather prehab than rehab. Plus the guys at westside do it, so it must work (Just to see if Faz is reading) | ||
Cuddles | ... | 12-09-2007 @ 08:53 | |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | Originally posted by sivvy1... icepick, if you worked every single part of every single exercise, you would never leave the gym, thats why i think it would only be useful if it became a problem for you, i cant see curls helping the bench press, apart from if you establish it as a problem like you had and rick has. Why wait till it becomes a problem though? These are the kind of things you can do in 3-4 minutes, even between sets. | ||
Carl | ... | 12-09-2007 @ 11:35 | |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | i see what you mean | ||
Carl | ... | 12-09-2007 @ 21:40 | |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | good session Deadlifts 60kgx8 120kgx5 162.5kg 5x5 Partial Deadlifts from the knees 160kgx8 170kgx5 Sit ups 2x10 with arms in the air to make it harder Sit ups with a twist, 2x8 Leg Raises 2x10 good session, a video is on its way! | ||
Carl | ... | 12-09-2007 @ 23:52 | |
Loves rugby league ... Member 13, 14460 posts SQ 230, BP 180.5, DL 262.5673.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq Administrator | Post Edited: 12.09.2007 @ 23:52 PM vidshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYQswLud1Hc and the 100kg powerclean fail from sunday, anyone got any pointers, little a, wigan?? saying that you probably cant see much from the front http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyRC3vBWkiY | ||
Thing | ... | 13-09-2007 @ 08:12 | |
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | your clean technique is far better t han mine but i think you could try and expolde more from the hips and lift the bar higher to your upper chest and but i suppose the best person to ask would be mishma. | ||
Cuddles | ... | 13-09-2007 @ 09:04 | |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | The first thing id do (im no expert!) is to slow down your first pull. You shouldnt be trying to rip the bar from floor to racked in one action. Get a solid arched back position, and use your legs to 'push the floor away' (as if you were leg pressing the floor). As the bar gets just past your knees then you should fire your hips, glutes and hamstrings hard, I was always told to 'hump the bar'. This is where the real explosion comes in. I'll try and dig up some vids to show you what I mean. | ||
Cuddles | ... | 13-09-2007 @ 09:10 | |
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator | These arent the best power cleans that you'll see in the world, but they really show what im trying to get at. Notice how slow and controlled the bar is from the floor. The explosion all comes in the second pull. The first pull is just to get you in position for the second pull: Btw, those deadlifts looked easy, nice work! | ||
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