UK STRENGTH CHAMPIONSHIPS 2015

Simeon said:
I reckon he's hoping it'll be just him and luke that enter: easy £250 for Paul!

PaulSavage said:
Have been a competitive poker player for several years. Not really a comparison i'm talking about the system in place. It's a much better system.

hixxy1985 said:would be good to do it just like them dart or snooker leagues. Even football leagues.

Membership fee. Then fee each time you play/compete.

so long as the fee is reasonable and achievable.

iv often thought it could work, but would have to start small before it became big.

hixxy1985 said:would be good to do it just like them dart or snooker leagues. Even football leagues.

Membership fee. Then fee each time you play/compete.

so long as the fee is reasonable and achievable.

iv often thought it could work, but would have to start small before it became big.

MrSmall said:
It isn't really though is it. You are just telling them to fund themselves to do so if they want. Like if I want to be a professional tiddlywinks player and I have bimonthly competitions with JC here at 1000 quid a game. I can stand to make a decent amount of money, or stand to lose a decent amount of money. In the former case, why would JC want to risk his money and the latter case why would I want to risk my own money?
There is no real benefit allround, only to the best guy(s). In which case, why would anyone else compete and give money? And if that is the case, why would the top guys bother risking against equally top guys? The problem here is that there is a lot of investment and risk for possibly no return. That is so much worse than the current "pay 20 quid, win some supplements and maybe small cash prize, progress to bigger comps" system.
You are saying a bunch of people get together, put money in a pot themselves, lift some weights and redistribute the money. That in no way constitutes "making a living".
To make a living, you need to generate new money, not recycle it. All you are suggesting is that people start putting more money into the "sport they love" in order to give it to the best people and compete alongside them.

MarkClegg said:Where do I send this £2000 entry fee then ??

ben66 said:
To me- I'm starting up a strong man only poker comp.

IrishMarc said:
This
There are 23,000,000 regular online poker players in the US alone.
A very large component to poker is statistical knowledge and good old luck so anyone can win given the ability to play the odds especially over time.
People who play poker can win through blind luck.
The amount you can put up scales from 1-2 quid buy ins right up to multi thousand and million pound tournaments
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I would doubt severely there are even 3,000 active strongmen in the UK.
Strongman is a strength sport therefore the chance element is very low strong people tend to win or place consistently highly for a reason.
A 250 quid outlay is ludicrous especially when you stand round about 0-5% chance of winning if your one of the bottom 90% competitors.
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For these reasons I'm out.
http://www.edp24.co.uk/polopoly_fs/sd_6_duncan_bannatyne_df4b1...
With poker you can't win even relatively short term by playing the odds as the rake is too big and you wont win enough to get any serious rakeback. The key factors are table position and being able to narrow down your opponents hand range to point where, depending on there playing style, you can make them fold when they have you beat, and call when you have them beat.

If there was 15 competitors the top 5 placing would be paid on each event, so it would be 1/3rd of the athletes winning prize money for each event.

PaulSavage said:
With poker you can't win even relatively short term by playing the odds as the rake is too big and you wont win enough to get any serious rakeback. The key factors are table position and being able to narrow down your opponents hand range to point where, depending on there playing style, you can make them fold when they have you beat, and call when you have them beat.
If there was 15 competitors the top 5 placing would be paid on each event, so it would be 1/3rd of the athletes winning prize money for each event.

PaulSavage said:This will be done via an 8 contest series spread through the year, the first more than likely end of January. Each competition will be held over a weekend with 4 divisions, u90, u105, open, and womens. Two divisions on Saturday, two divisions on Sunday. The events will be standard strongman events, different each contest, tested by max, reps, time, distance etc The plan is to hold every contest at the same central location, however i will take the kit to different locations if needed.

Now here's the difference between this and other competitions, it's going to be £250 entry for EACH contest with 95% of it forming a prize pool. I'm hoping for an average of at least 15 competitors per division which would produce a massive £14,250 prize pool for each contest and well in excess of £100,000 over the entire series.

The way the pay outs will work is via each individual contest as well as the overall championships, with 75% of the prize pool going to each contest and 25% to the overall. Each contest will be paid via single event, so if 6 events, the prize money for division will be split into 6 with the top so many competitors getting paid. The overall points will still be scored as this will be added up to determine the overall championship placings. The number of competitors paid will depend on the number of entrants.

I know this is a lot of money to pay so that's why i'm letting everyone know a full year in advance. The events, dates, and rules will all be listed in full with pictures and dimensions of the kit after it's been purchased and tested. If you have any questions feel free to ask in this thread or pm or by email at savagegrip@yahoo.com

Cheers,

Paul

unit94 said:
Yes but what about the bottom third?

PaulSavage said:
You can't expect to win money if your placing nowhere, you have earnt it. At least with individual event prizes it's unlikely many competitors will go away empty handed.

PaulSavage said:
You can't expect to win money if your placing nowhere, you have earnt it. At least with individual event prizes it's unlikely many competitors will go away empty handed.