Think this guy hits nail on the head re: Lance Armstrong..

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force10		...	20-01-2013 @ 16:32
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330 875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	Tom_Martin said: Oh I get it. Drug tests failed by Tom Martin = ? Drug tests failed by Simon 19-Norcup = ? You know details about Peds I dont know so thats the reason I asked you mate, Thought with everything you knew you could answer my question.

Tom_Martin		...	20-01-2013 @ 16:34
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 425 1050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 20.01.2013 @ 16:36 PM by Tom_Martin force10 said: You know details about Peds I dont know so thats the reason I asked you mate, Thought with everything you knew you could answer my question. Well, giving you the benefit of the doubt and presuming no accusotory undertones, I shall answer your question and move on from this st. The answer is, I don't really know. I've heard good and bad things. Good as in best strength gains available, and bad as in worst side affects. I believe it was manufactured for use with cattle. I guess I did know a little bit then.... do some reading? Source : Done a lot of training with various people who were willing to openly explain what the fk they were doing.

ItsaSecret		...	20-01-2013 @ 16:37
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250 610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Tom_Martin said: Oh I get it. Drug tests failed by Tom Martin = ? Drug tests failed by Simon 19-Norcup = ? that was an incredible pun tom, kudos

Steve		...	20-01-2013 @ 16:40
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	VinnyJones said: The entire paragraph is to be read in context. The legalese is there to demonstrate that no-one else can be responsible for what an athlete puts in their body. It even states in explanation of the rule that it is a liability statement and only refers to "samples". An athlete can still put something into their body and get around the rules which was my point. I don't believe that's what's meant You don't write a hundred page plus document about testing rules etc allowing athletes to take drugs as long as they don't get caught especially with a first paragraph stating your aims are "To protect the Athletes' fundamental right to participate in doping-free sport and thus promote health, fairness and equality for Athletes worldwide"

shanejer		...	20-01-2013 @ 16:47
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370 965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	How can you be close to a 180 bench when your max is 160 ?!? Yes that is all I got from this thread.

unit94		...	20-01-2013 @ 16:50
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10446 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400 940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq	shanejer said:How can you be close to a 180 bench when your max is 160 ?!? Yes that is all I got from this thread. Haha i was wondering that but he might just use totals from meets for his stats not recent gym lifts?

ItsaSecret		...	20-01-2013 @ 16:54
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250 610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	unit94 said: Haha i was wondering that but he might just use totals from meets for his stats not recent gym lifts? no never competed. just havent really maxed in f**king ages my squat pb is 200x3 never done heavier yet. deadlift i know for a fact thats gonna be 280-300 by the time ive built up to it. and bench will be a minimum of 180 at the time i hit that dead (6-8 weeks time). i close gripped 140 for 6 the other day.


shanejer		...	20-01-2013 @ 16:55
Member 1307, 14110 posts SQ 355, BP 240, DL 370 965.0 kgs @ 102kgs UnEq	Fair enough

force10		...	20-01-2013 @ 17:02
Drugs cheat Member 3860, 630 posts SQ 335, BP 210, DL 330 875.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	Im near 450kg on my squat, well its neerer that than 0kg

ItsaSecret		...	20-01-2013 @ 17:07
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250 610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	force10 said:Im near 450kg on my squat, well its neerer that than 0kg you're also in denial phaggot therefore your input is invalid

AdamT		...	20-01-2013 @ 17:09
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts	lot of hostility going on today

shaunclegg		...	20-01-2013 @ 17:09
The official olympic weightlifter of SB (juniors) Member 495, 3531 posts SQ 201, BP 137.5, DL 200 538.5 kgs @ 69kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 20.01.2013 @ 17:09 PM by shaunclegg ItsaSecret said: you're also in denial phaggot therefore your input is invalid faggot*

IainKendrick		...	20-01-2013 @ 17:20
some nice relaxing jazz. Member 77, 12599 posts SQ 265, BP 165, DL 280 710.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq	LOL

milsy		...	20-01-2013 @ 17:20
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335 902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq	ItsaSecret said: no never competed. just havent really maxed in f**king ages my squat pb is 200x3 never done heavier yet. deadlift i know for a fact thats gonna be 280-300 by the time ive built up to it. and bench will be a minimum of 180 at the time i hit that dead (6-8 weeks time). i close gripped 140 for 6 the other day. wish a 140x6 close grip bench would put me in good confidence a 180 bench was around the corner but sadly it doesn't work for me like that

EDCLARKE		...	20-01-2013 @ 17:21
not particularly well educated Member 85, 10988 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260 560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	This thread is just plain depressing. It's got everything Internet macho men ,veiled threats of violence, insinuations as to what people take and straight forward insults. Seems to happened in every thread about peds

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