Ever wish you were average strength?
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Terminator said:
your lifts are all 5 kg above average on this site though
your lifts are all 5 kg above average on this site though
Well, my comment was partly tongue in cheek, as I would think I'm a bit stronger than 'actual' average. However, I also would have thought I was a lot weaker than 'Sugden' average, which is an altogether different thing, due to the number of absolute freaks on here! Is that true? If so I'm quite surprised. How do you know the average on here?
PeteHodgson said:
Well, my comment was partly tongue in cheek, as I would think I'm a bit stronger than 'actual' average. However, I also would have thought I was a lot weaker than 'Sugden' average, which is an altogether different thing, due to the number of absolute freaks on here! Is that true? If so I'm quite surprised. How do you know the average on here?
Well, my comment was partly tongue in cheek, as I would think I'm a bit stronger than 'actual' average. However, I also would have thought I was a lot weaker than 'Sugden' average, which is an altogether different thing, due to the number of absolute freaks on here! Is that true? If so I'm quite surprised. How do you know the average on here?
Someone mentioned the median average before. It's very un-average like. We could also debate the use of averages and how meaningless they can be lol
Frio3535 said:Most guys on here are of average strength amongst the strength community. I would be more worried about that to be honest, spending a lot of your time to become average.
LOL. Do you think ther 100,000s footballers registered in the UK worry about not being of the ability of Rooney or Gerrard! Stupid comment!
I wish I was as strong as Brian Shaw, but being average strength (or whateva strength we are perceived to be) isnt one of my main concerns in life!
PeteHodgson said:
Well, my comment was partly tongue in cheek, as I would think I'm a bit stronger than 'actual' average. However, I also would have thought I was a lot weaker than 'Sugden' average, which is an altogether different thing, due to the number of absolute freaks on here! Is that true? If so I'm quite surprised. How do you know the average on here?
Well, my comment was partly tongue in cheek, as I would think I'm a bit stronger than 'actual' average. However, I also would have thought I was a lot weaker than 'Sugden' average, which is an altogether different thing, due to the number of absolute freaks on here! Is that true? If so I'm quite surprised. How do you know the average on here?
If you look at the number of people on the unequipped powerlifting league, you can find the halfway point on the table and use that as the median.
There are a lot of "weaker" people to balance the freaks on here tbh.
Terminator said:Average (Median) Strength on Sugden is:
SQ 190 BP 135 DL 230 Unequipped
Hopefully my days as an under-average lifter are dwindling
SQ 190 BP 135 DL 230 Unequipped
Hopefully my days as an under-average lifter are dwindling
Theres a big big world outside of sugden on here I would say I'm pretty average but in the strength world in general I'm still pretty weak even when you take age into consideration
milsy said:
Theres a big big world outside of sugden on here I would say I'm pretty average but in the strength world in general I'm still pretty weak even when you take age into consideration
Theres a big big world outside of sugden on here I would say I'm pretty average but in the strength world in general I'm still pretty weak even when you take age into consideration
have to agree with you dude on the grand scale of tings in the strength wolrd i'm piss weak
IainT03/10/11 @ 13:23
On another (sport related) forum I kicked off a thread about training a couple of years ago. It's 7000 odd replies long now. There's a crude competition (by wilks, and I accept calculated maxes from 2-6 rep sets).
There's some good athletes on there, guys who play or have played at a decent level, including some who have been semi-pro. And, there are a few strong guys who haven't entered the comp (guy with a 600lb deadlift for instance, doesn't tell us his weight)
Right now, I top the wilks for back squat, front squat, deadlift and squat/bench/dead total. There are only two of us with a wilks score over 100 for the squat.
There's some good athletes on there, guys who play or have played at a decent level, including some who have been semi-pro. And, there are a few strong guys who haven't entered the comp (guy with a 600lb deadlift for instance, doesn't tell us his weight)
Right now, I top the wilks for back squat, front squat, deadlift and squat/bench/dead total. There are only two of us with a wilks score over 100 for the squat.
I'd love to be average strength. If I was average strength, I might finally be able to get that damn 70kg log above my head!
VanillaGorilla said:
I think most people probably just see a slightly fat guy and don't pay it a second thought.
I think most people probably just see a slightly fat guy and don't pay it a second thought.
This is very true.
I bet the average person perceives a "strong man" to be muscular and shaped more like a bodybuilder, whereas most of the very strong men do not look like that at all.
Thing said:
have to agree with you dude on the grand scale of tings in the strength wolrd i'm piss weak
have to agree with you dude on the grand scale of tings in the strength wolrd i'm piss weak
If 205 bench is piss weak, I wish I could someday be piss weak!
martin said:
Someone mentioned the median average before. It's very un-average like. We could also debate the use of averages and how meaningless they can be lol
Someone mentioned the median average before. It's very un-average like. We could also debate the use of averages and how meaningless they can be lol
This is very true, but I'll be f**ked if I'm gonna sit here and work out the mean!
Gingy03/10/11 @ 19:27
________Squat___________Bench___________Dead____________Total
Mean____200.2236716_____143.1219162_____232.8250696_____568.6198428
Median__200_____________140_____________232.5___________565
Mode____200_____________140_____________240_____________550
Stdev___63.46653024_____43.67937591_____56.60805248_____162.6508746
+1stdev_263.6902019_____186.8012921_____289.4331221_____731.2707175
+2stdev_327.1567321_____230.480668______346.0411745_____893.9215921
________Age_____________BW______________Wilks
mean____29.39980354_____101.6952849_____353.3743713
median__28______________98______________353.13
mode____28______________90______________382.46
stdev___8.998977324_____36.68906291_____88.76932864
+1stdev_38.39878018_____138.3843478_____442.1437
+2stdev_47.39775818_____175.0734107_____530.9130286
median isn't the best measure but it's not a mile off. This is the data for a few more useful things when you remove all the 0's for people so as to not skew it too much.
The data includes the entire powerlifting league, equipped or otherwise
With as many entries as there are, it's not a bad sample size.
For those not familiar with standard deviation (stdev), if you're 1 stdev more than the mean you're fairly exceptional. 2 above and you're basically a freak of nature but I'm guessing you would already realise that!
Not 100% accurate but certainly more reliable than just median.
Mean____200.2236716_____143.1219162_____232.8250696_____568.6198428
Median__200_____________140_____________232.5___________565
Mode____200_____________140_____________240_____________550
Stdev___63.46653024_____43.67937591_____56.60805248_____162.6508746
+1stdev_263.6902019_____186.8012921_____289.4331221_____731.2707175
+2stdev_327.1567321_____230.480668______346.0411745_____893.9215921
________Age_____________BW______________Wilks
mean____29.39980354_____101.6952849_____353.3743713
median__28______________98______________353.13
mode____28______________90______________382.46
stdev___8.998977324_____36.68906291_____88.76932864
+1stdev_38.39878018_____138.3843478_____442.1437
+2stdev_47.39775818_____175.0734107_____530.9130286
median isn't the best measure but it's not a mile off. This is the data for a few more useful things when you remove all the 0's for people so as to not skew it too much.
The data includes the entire powerlifting league, equipped or otherwise
With as many entries as there are, it's not a bad sample size.
For those not familiar with standard deviation (stdev), if you're 1 stdev more than the mean you're fairly exceptional. 2 above and you're basically a freak of nature but I'm guessing you would already realise that!
Not 100% accurate but certainly more reliable than just median.
Tom_Martin said:it's f**king s**t having a world record so, i'm with wayne
i know yeah if i had a world record i would no longer be able to look my parents in the eye. Oh the shame it would provoke!