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milsyIconhow do you know when your overtraining16-12-2010 @ 20:02 
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i have hit a point where somthing strange has happend i have always kinda understood the point of not over training but over last couple of months i have noticed that the harder i push my self and harder i "overtrain" my body i hit a point where i feel like stoping and cant walk properly cant sleep properly feel sick alot the same wieght feels heavier and heavier each session but then to my surprise i go train 1 time and the wieght starts feeling easier and so on each session

theres no chance i could lift my max in this state but if i take a week off and recover i come back a hell of a lot stronger than i was before

so heres the thing is it wise to push your body to the limit for 6 weeks solid and take 1 week off to recover ?

i know its a wierd way of thinking and goes against the grain but what are people thaughts
DuncanIcon...16-12-2010 @ 20:15 
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Don't take time off, just change the exercise or resistance curve of that exercise. e.g. change squats for box squats/ use a different kind of bar/ change amount of chains/bands used if you use them. For deadlift change to rack pulls, change stance (conventional, sumo) or do some deficits.
Tom_MartinIcon...16-12-2010 @ 20:16 
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That point when it started getting easier again...you should've carried on going!
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...16-12-2010 @ 20:17 
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Rest is your friend.
MrSmallIcon...16-12-2010 @ 20:19 
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When you really dread going to train.
cannings07Icon...16-12-2010 @ 20:19 
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No such thing as overtraining. Just under eating.
milsyIcon...16-12-2010 @ 20:27 
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Tom_Martin said:That point when it started getting easier again...you should've carried on going!



i did for 4 weeks and i broke every rep pb i had ever done in the sqaut then i took 1 week off and added 20kg to my sqaut just wonderd if anyone else did this

i think im going to hit that point again soon i hope i do anyway
Tom_MartinIcon...16-12-2010 @ 20:42 
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milsy said:
i did for 4 weeks and i broke every rep pb i had ever done in the sqaut then i took 1 week off and added 20kg to my sqaut just wonderd if anyone else did this
i think im going to hit that point again soon i hope i do anyway


When it happens again, try not taking the week off?
milsyIcon...16-12-2010 @ 20:48 
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Tom_Martin said:
When it happens again, try not taking the week off?




i am dont worry going to see how far i can go i wont know until i try it
do you put your strength down to training this way?

the goal is a 300 raw sqaut in jnr got to add 23kg a year to do it suppose i gotta aim high
shauncleggIcon...16-12-2010 @ 20:50 
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Post Edited: 16.12.2010 @ 20:50 PM by shaunclegg
Tom_Martin said: There is no such thing as over-training
richiebevanIcon...16-12-2010 @ 21:19 
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just eat more food, you will feel strong again in no time.
ThingIcon...16-12-2010 @ 21:25 
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i find just taking a day off and some good food on board does the trick plus a solid night sleep
tlast2O12dudeIcon...16-12-2010 @ 21:56 
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milsy said:i have hit a point where somthing strange has happend i have always kinda understood the point of not over training but over last couple of months i have noticed that the harder i push my self and harder i "overtrain" my body i hit a point where i feel like stoping and cant walk properly cant sleep properly feel sick alot the same wieght feels heavier and heavier each session but then to my surprise i go train 1 time and the wieght starts feeling easier and so on each session

theres no chance i could lift my max in this state but if i take a week off and recover i come back a hell of a lot stronger than i was before

so heres the thing is it wise to push your body to the limit for 6 weeks solid and take 1 week off to recover ?

i know its a wierd way of thinking and goes against the grain but what are people thaughts



i 'm in the same situation, 6 weeks of pushing myself to the limit, not i feel like i need a week or two of easy weight BUT to keep the intensity i will add more volume.

But yeah, it's normal.

DONT TAKE A WEEK OFF!! Reduce intensity!
JohnCIcon...16-12-2010 @ 22:07 
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cannings07 said:No such thing as overtraining. Just under eating.


And/or under sleeping.
milsyIcon...16-12-2010 @ 22:11 
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think a few people have misunderstood what i was getting at think its me explaining it wrong

i feel that when i aim to put my body into a fatigued overtrained state i can do it to the point of wanting to give in but if i push through it somthing clicks and i start making progress in this state

just wanted to know if this was an advisable way of training because it goes against almost everything iv been told before

i know how not to overtrain and what to do diet wise and rest but i am actully aiming to "overreach" i think they call it a short period of sending your body into a sort of overtrained state as to bounce back stronger when you recover

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