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SamthepigmanIconBest Athlete27-04-2014 @ 20:56 
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Lets imgagine we had a competition to decide who is the "best athlete" from each country,

for example, wales:

open - si johnson (we'll say 120kg bw for the example)
-vs -
105 - lewis gradden
-vs-
90 - ty jones.

events as follows

Log Reps
Open - 120
105 - 105
90 - 90
e.g. BW for reps

Yoke 20m (double BW)
Open - 240
105 - 210
90 - 180

deadlift reps
open - 240
105 - 210
90 - 180

farmers 20m
open - 120
105 - 105
90 - 90

Squat
open - 240
105 - 210
90 - 180

stone for reps
open - 120
105 - 105
90 - 90

obviously if the open is 160kg then the figures would change to account for that, i just used 120 for this example

Who would win? Id say its tough to call as all the weights are light for every competitor, could be anyone of the three?
JCarter123Icon...27-04-2014 @ 21:05 
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The lightest person because generally lighter people have a higher power to weight ratio I think e.g. there are 4 and 5 times BW deadlifters but the big daddy's are normally at best 3 times BW.
Funky_monkeyIcon...27-04-2014 @ 21:11 
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JCarter123 said:The lightest person because generally lighter people have a higher power to weight ratio I think e.g. there are 4 and 5 times BW deadlifters but the big daddy's are normally at best 3 times BW.


Agreed. Lb for lb, my dead lift used to be better than Andy Bolton's. 3x bw at 80kg is average, whereas 3x bw at 160kg is completely different. You need to use Wilks formula or similar to make it fair.
SamthepigmanIcon...27-04-2014 @ 21:27 
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what your saying only applies for max really

id say all the athletes above are good for pretty simlilar reps on the weights above
Wayne_CowdreyIcon...27-04-2014 @ 21:40 
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You're into your hypothetical contests aren't you Happy
MarkIcon...28-04-2014 @ 09:56 
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athletes in a weight category are more likely to be more lean mass than an open that is quite a bit over 105kg.

some events the additional mass helps, others it doesn't. That's where this fails as a 130kg man with the same lean mass as an u105 might be as strong as each other but by your thoughts the heavier man should be squatting 50kg more for reps just to be equal. Forgetting that they are already carrying an additional 25kg of mass already.

End of the day though, does it matter? All that matters is you are better than those you are competing against Happy
JCIcon...28-04-2014 @ 10:49 
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Who cares?

Si would beat the other 2 in a comp as he's the stronger guy...and 90% of us on here are strongmen so that should be our only concern
MarkCleggIcon...28-04-2014 @ 11:02 
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JC said:Who cares?


x 2

I'll tell you this too . If I could chose 105kg with a 370kg Deadlift or 120kg with a 380kg Deadlift
Then I wanna be 120kg !!

These guys are the sport - The open weights are what people wanna see . No one gives a flying s**t about 105kg and even less under 90kg ..

Even those people who believe a 300kg Deadlift at 75kg is in anyway as strong as a 400kg @ 100kg are delusional !

"This life we have chosen isn't a mathematical equation"!
Mark Clegg ~ 2014
tz1127Icon...28-04-2014 @ 11:06 
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What about sinclair/wilks etc? I mean you have probably out-totaled Suleymanoglu, do you consider yourself stronger? Not a dig, just curious...
chaosIcon...28-04-2014 @ 11:06 
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Is that your new tag line marko? Very philosophical, however, what if it could be proved through Chaos theory (the real one not mine) that life does follow a mathematical equation?
JohnGymIcon...28-04-2014 @ 11:25 
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MarkClegg said:
"This life we have chosen isn't a mathematical equation"!
Mark Clegg ~ 2014


I like this and I agree.
JCIcon...28-04-2014 @ 11:28 
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tz1127 said:What about sinclair/wilks etc? I mean you have probably out-totaled Suleymanoglu, do you consider yourself stronger? Not a dig, just curious...


Knowing Mark, he wont give a f**k about wilks/Sinclair.....

He's stronger than someone when he can lift more
Savolainen87Icon...28-04-2014 @ 11:34 
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MarkClegg said:
x 2
I'll tell you this too . If I could chose 105kg with a 370kg Deadlift or 120kg with a 380kg Deadlift
Then I wanna be 120kg !!
These guys are the sport - The open weights are what people wanna see . No one gives a flying s**t about 105kg and even less under 90kg ..
Even those people who believe a 300kg Deadlift at 75kg is in anyway as strong as a 400kg @ 100kg are delusional !
"This life we have chosen isn't a mathematical equation"!
Mark Clegg ~ 2014


Agree
If u Lift more - so u are stronger
MarkCleggIcon...28-04-2014 @ 11:34 
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. I love the little guys lifting the tiny weights it's well cute x




Haters gonna hate :-}
FlashIcon...28-04-2014 @ 13:03 
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MarkClegg said:. I love the little guys lifting the tiny weights it's well cute x




Haters gonna hate :-}


Your cute x

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