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Samthepigman | Best Athlete | 27-04-2014 @ 20:56 | |
See You Next Tuesday Member 2254, 3824 posts SQ 240, BP 165, DL 300705.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | Lets imgagine we had a competition to decide who is the "best athlete" from each country, for example, wales: open - si johnson (we'll say 120kg bw for the example) -vs - 105 - lewis gradden -vs- 90 - ty jones. events as follows Log Reps Open - 120 105 - 105 90 - 90 e.g. BW for reps Yoke 20m (double BW) Open - 240 105 - 210 90 - 180 deadlift reps open - 240 105 - 210 90 - 180 farmers 20m open - 120 105 - 105 90 - 90 Squat open - 240 105 - 210 90 - 180 stone for reps open - 120 105 - 105 90 - 90 obviously if the open is 160kg then the figures would change to account for that, i just used 120 for this example Who would win? Id say its tough to call as all the weights are light for every competitor, could be anyone of the three? | ||
JCarter123 | ... | 27-04-2014 @ 21:05 | |
Member 3757, 1746 posts SQ 202.5, BP 110, DL 255567.5 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | The lightest person because generally lighter people have a higher power to weight ratio I think e.g. there are 4 and 5 times BW deadlifters but the big daddy's are normally at best 3 times BW. | ||
Funky_monkey | ... | 27-04-2014 @ 21:11 | |
403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | JCarter123 said:The lightest person because generally lighter people have a higher power to weight ratio I think e.g. there are 4 and 5 times BW deadlifters but the big daddy's are normally at best 3 times BW. Agreed. Lb for lb, my dead lift used to be better than Andy Bolton's. 3x bw at 80kg is average, whereas 3x bw at 160kg is completely different. You need to use Wilks formula or similar to make it fair. | ||
Samthepigman | ... | 27-04-2014 @ 21:27 | |
See You Next Tuesday Member 2254, 3824 posts SQ 240, BP 165, DL 300705.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | what your saying only applies for max really id say all the athletes above are good for pretty simlilar reps on the weights above | ||
Wayne_Cowdrey | ... | 27-04-2014 @ 21:40 | |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22059 posts | You're into your hypothetical contests aren't you | ||
Mark | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 09:56 | |
Member. Member 2171, 1612 posts | athletes in a weight category are more likely to be more lean mass than an open that is quite a bit over 105kg. some events the additional mass helps, others it doesn't. That's where this fails as a 130kg man with the same lean mass as an u105 might be as strong as each other but by your thoughts the heavier man should be squatting 50kg more for reps just to be equal. Forgetting that they are already carrying an additional 25kg of mass already. End of the day though, does it matter? All that matters is you are better than those you are competing against | ||
JC | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 10:49 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Who cares? Si would beat the other 2 in a comp as he's the stronger guy...and 90% of us on here are strongmen so that should be our only concern | ||
MarkClegg | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 11:02 | |
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | JC said:Who cares? x 2 I'll tell you this too . If I could chose 105kg with a 370kg Deadlift or 120kg with a 380kg Deadlift Then I wanna be 120kg !! These guys are the sport - The open weights are what people wanna see . No one gives a flying s**t about 105kg and even less under 90kg .. Even those people who believe a 300kg Deadlift at 75kg is in anyway as strong as a 400kg @ 100kg are delusional ! "This life we have chosen isn't a mathematical equation"! Mark Clegg ~ 2014 | ||
tz1127 | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 11:06 | |
Member 1419, 2281 posts SQ 175, BP 105, DL 240520.0 kgs @ 82kgs UnEq | What about sinclair/wilks etc? I mean you have probably out-totaled Suleymanoglu, do you consider yourself stronger? Not a dig, just curious... | ||
chaos | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 11:06 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Is that your new tag line marko? Very philosophical, however, what if it could be proved through Chaos theory (the real one not mine) that life does follow a mathematical equation? | ||
JohnGym | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 11:25 | |
Hamstrings feel activated. Member 1107, 6964 posts SQ 220, BP 152.5, DL 252.5625.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | MarkClegg said: "This life we have chosen isn't a mathematical equation"! Mark Clegg ~ 2014 I like this and I agree. | ||
JC | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 11:28 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | tz1127 said:What about sinclair/wilks etc? I mean you have probably out-totaled Suleymanoglu, do you consider yourself stronger? Not a dig, just curious... Knowing Mark, he wont give a f**k about wilks/Sinclair..... He's stronger than someone when he can lift more | ||
Savolainen87 | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 11:34 | |
banned. Member 4768, 413 posts SQ 310, BP 232.5, DL 310852.5 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq | MarkClegg said: x 2 I'll tell you this too . If I could chose 105kg with a 370kg Deadlift or 120kg with a 380kg Deadlift Then I wanna be 120kg !! These guys are the sport - The open weights are what people wanna see . No one gives a flying s**t about 105kg and even less under 90kg .. Even those people who believe a 300kg Deadlift at 75kg is in anyway as strong as a 400kg @ 100kg are delusional ! "This life we have chosen isn't a mathematical equation"! Mark Clegg ~ 2014 Agree If u Lift more - so u are stronger | ||
MarkClegg | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 11:34 | |
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | . I love the little guys lifting the tiny weights it's well cute x Haters gonna hate :-} | ||
Flash | ... | 28-04-2014 @ 13:03 | |
King of the impossible Member 3130, 2082 posts SQ 310, BP 200, DL 310820.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | MarkClegg said:. I love the little guys lifting the tiny weights it's well cute x Haters gonna hate :-} Your cute x | ||