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chaos | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 12:20 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Fazc said: The majority have integrated very well. But is this even about immigration and immigrants? This was a nutcase from London, born and raised with Nigerian roots. Just because he shouted out some nonsensical rantings to justify the atrocity he just just committed does that make him a muslim? The boys who they caught in Birmingham a few months ago were also born and raised in the UK, has never been anywhere close to the East. Their planned bombings were going to include a location which would also damage a Mosque and kill muslims. Do any of these actually care at all about religion? Really? Is it even about immigration? I don't think so. Yeah I didn't finish my point very well, I wasn't talking about immigration and I chose the word communities to mean allsorts of communities not just muslim! None of these idiots really care about religion because if they did they would not commit these acts! It just baffles me how people can be brainwashed so easily! | ||
chaos | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 12:22 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | LeedsMiniPower said:f**k off Chaos you have gone the other way, England wasnt good enough for you so now you have switched to becoming a Muslim strongman f**kin damn right! I'm probably in one of the safest (ignoring the driving and the border with Yemen!) countries in the world! | ||
martinb | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 12:34 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | chaos said: None of these idiots really care about religion because if they did they would not commit these acts! It just baffles me how people can be brainwashed so easily! I disagree completely I think they care enough to kill and die. | ||
IrishMarc | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 12:51 | |
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 23.05.2013 @ 12:54 PM by IrishMarc martinb said: I disagree completely I think they care enough to kill and die. I think chaos was referring to caring about the "moderate" or less cultist interpretations of their religions/what most would consider to be the "true" religion. I doubt many daily mosque goers feel the need to behead people or bomb innocents. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster_Rebellion http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/hharchive/Show-48---Prophets... great listen if anyone is bored. | ||
MarkClegg | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 13:00 | |
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | I`m gutted i read the paper today .. its drained me of all my positive energy .. This story is horrific BUT its not the saddest news story in the papers today . We have a country full of degenerates !! these are allowed to reproduce go on Jeremy Kyle and reproduce some more .. I can only see things getting worse !! | ||
chaos | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 13:06 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | IrishMarc said: I think chaos was referring to caring about the "moderate" or less cultist interpretations of their religions/what most would consider to be the "true" religion. I doubt many daily mosque goers feel the need to behead people or bomb innocents. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster_Rebellion http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/hharchive/Show-48---Prophets... great listen if anyone is bored. Sorry, yes that is what I meant. Not extremists who twist meanings to justify violence. | ||
rossphillips | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 13:13 | |
Get to a kyro mate. Member 2268, 4659 posts SQ 250, BP 190, DL 272.5712.5 kgs @ 104kgs Eq | I feel like I'm back in Iraq again only this time I'm not tooled up ( things need to f**kin change in this country ) | ||
chaos | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 13:24 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | rossphillips said:I feel like I'm back in Iraq again only this time I'm not tooled up ( things need to f**kin change in this country ) The only tool you had in your hand was your sergeant's! | ||
unit94 | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 13:50 | |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | martinb said: True, I should go back and read "The Lucifer Effect" again I've just googled that, I'm gonna have a read. | ||
brownbear | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 15:14 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | LeedsMiniPower said:Bad people are bad people regardless of religion, i do think we are way to soft in this country. On a side note i personally dont think we should allow/fund a any religions who dont allow all religions to practice in their country. For example i wouldnt allow Mosques in the UK as generally Churches arent accepted in Muslim countries. That's ridiculous, many predominantly Muslim countries do allow Christianity and churches, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan all have large christian communities | ||
d_singh | funding terrorists abroad | 23-05-2013 @ 16:23 | |
Gillette - The best a man can get Member 466, 1389 posts SQ 196, BP 120, DL 254570.0 kgs @ 74kgs UnEq | The world just seems so weird these days. Everyone is up in arms about this incidents ( which of course is a sad state of affair) but why doesnt anyone bat an eye lid when quite clearly western foreign policy is funding jhadist extremists in Libya and Syria with tax payers money to destablise countries. I see a lot of people saying support our troops , which i agree , but does this also mean support foreign policy which probably the majority of troops both american and english dont agree on. | ||
brownbear | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 16:28 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | d_singh said:The world just seems so weird these days. Everyone is up in arms about this incidents ( which of course is a sad state of affair) but why doesnt anyone bat an eye lid when quite clearly western foreign policy is funding jhadist extremists in Libya and Syria with tax payers money to destablise countries. I see a lot of people saying support our troops , which i agree , but does this also mean support foreign policy which probably the majority of troops both american and english dont agree on. People are quick to forget it was the f**king Americans who provided arms to the Taliban to fight the Russians and got Saddam Hussein in to power. | ||
d_singh | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 16:34 | |
Gillette - The best a man can get Member 466, 1389 posts SQ 196, BP 120, DL 254570.0 kgs @ 74kgs UnEq | brownbear said: People are quick to forget it was the f**king Americans who provided arms to the Taliban to fight the Russians and got Saddam Hussein in to power. Exactly. Media just loves to create fear and propaganda while those in power loot the country and commit crimes while people are distracted. | ||
chaos | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 16:43 | |
An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 23.05.2013 @ 16:44 PM by chaos brownbear said: People are quick to forget it was the f**king Americans who provided arms to the Taliban to fight the Russians and got Saddam Hussein in to power. WHat caused the change from the Taliban being supported by the West to them hating us? ALthough the British have always been pretty much hated in Afghanistan as we tried a number of times to claim it as our own, especially in 19th Century. | ||
Rick | ... | 23-05-2013 @ 20:32 | |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | It's not just the media who are hysterical, sadly. Here, a white man was killed by two Muslim dickheads with machetes in the street for reasons of race and religion, and the Cobra committee held an emergency meeting. A fortnight ago, a (75-year-old) Muslim man was killed by a white dickhead with a machete in the street for reasons of race and religion, and no emergency meetings were held. Most people probably never heard about it. (The story is at http://m.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/02/birmingham-murder-racia... of you don't remember it. I didn't until reminded.) There are a number of things wrong with our country, and few of them are black and white. No pun intended. | ||