Touch and go or dead stop

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davycummings		Touch and go or dead stop	29-01-2011 @ 10:02
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	When deadlifting I usually do all my reps to a dead stop, but I often see people do touch and go reps. How many of you include them in your training and what do you think you get from them?

dan302		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:04
i shy away from hard work Member 549, 2761 posts SQ 250, BP 132.5, DL 282.5 665.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	i touch and go because im lazy, doing it from a dead stop is the proper way to do it

moz		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:07
Feasting on humble pie. Member 51, 1692 posts SQ 227.5, BP 185, DL 272.5 685.0 kgs @ 90.4kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 29.01.2011 @ 10:08 AM by moz I'm the same but do SLDL touch and go. If you don't dead stop don't you utilise a thing called pause reflex? Something like that? Basically your second rep could be easier than your 1st? Edit: stretch reflex?

martinb		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:08
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5 677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq	I train touch and go, cause I figure at my level getting 2 more reps in a set is more important than being comp ready. Although, if you have a specific deadlift event to train for, then I'd change to dead stop.

milsy		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:08
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335 902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq	do as you would do in a comp in my opinion powerlifting deadstop strongman touch and go to get the reps in

Adam_F		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:10
conventional all the way ! Member 1980, 1201 posts SQ 217.5, BP 137.5, DL 255 610.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq	I recently stopped using touch and go, dead stop is much harder after a couple of reps - but I feel that it has made me stronger!

davycummings		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:10
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 29.01.2011 @ 10:12 AM by davycummings Moz, yeah, with touch and go the second rep seems a lot easier, but that could also be because of the rebound on the plates too.


davycummings		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:12
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	milsy said:do as you would do in a comp in my opinion powerlifting deadstop strongman touch and go to get the reps in Whenever I had deadlift for reps in a comp it was dead stop too though

milsy		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:32
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335 902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq	davycummings said: Whenever I had deadlift for reps in a comp it was dead stop too though abit of a s**tter then haha i would say do both then but watch your form on touch and go i used to watch a powerlifter at my old gym a strong guy and i was amazed at how he trained he used to start at160 for 10 then work upto 200x10 and after 1st 3 hes form was way out touch and go the bar will also start in a diff postion each rep swings and roundabouts but im no expert

tlast2O12dude		...	29-01-2011 @ 10:50
Obvious Juicer Member 1613, 1036 posts SQ 185, BP 140, DL 220 545.0 kgs @ 66kgs UnEq	A deadlift is dead stop, the weight must be dead and be lifted. Touch and go is only a real deadlift on the first rep, then it becomes another exercise. The idea of training the deadlift is to lift from the dead position, where the bar dosent have any momentum. TOuch and go is a back exercise, consider it as an assistance to dead stop deadlifts.

Thing		...	29-01-2011 @ 11:04
a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290 770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq	Think if in your case Davy you should train to a dead stop on the deadlift as that would be more likely in a comp. And then train touch and go on SLDL as this would have some carry over to stones in the leg and lower back muscles used and that is a speed event.

Big_Gray		...	29-01-2011 @ 11:33
another lover of conans wheel Member 1116, 2379 posts SQ 275, BP 210, DL 330 815.0 kgs @ 134kgs UnEq	dead stop every time mate. the name of the lift says it all. agree tho that sldl can be done touch n go as keeps conctant tension on the hams

BigSam		...	29-01-2011 @ 11:42
HORRIBLE MEDLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Member 621, 4744 posts SQ 340, BP 220, DL 335 895.0 kgs @ 106kgs Eq	I NEVER Touch And Go! Always Make Things Harder Never Easier!

bignige1986		...	29-01-2011 @ 11:47
Taleban says his views on women are extreme Member 639, 3518 posts SQ 10, BP 10, DL 10 30.0 kgs @ 10kgs Eq	BigSam said:I NEVER Touch And Go! Always Make Things Harder Never Easier! Allthough i agree mate look at big benni he does touch and go reps with 400kg so cant be all bad

ranathari		...	29-01-2011 @ 12:17
sumo ?? no ! no ! Member 1399, 557 posts	Post Edited: 29.01.2011 @ 12:18 PM by ranathari moz said:I'm the same but do SLDL touch and go. If you don't dead stop don't you utilise a thing called pause reflex? Something like that? Basically your second rep could be easier than your 1st? Edit: stretch reflex? Yeah, stretch reflex. You store energy on the eccentric portion and touch-and-go let you use that energy to rapidly change direction whereas a dead stop results in the stored elastic potential dissipating. Same reason why your paused bench is weaker than your touch-and-go bench and why you can jump higher if you do a small depth jump immediately beforehand. I dead stop my deadlifts because I find the bar tends to drift away from me on touch-and-go making my technique go in the s**tter. Easier to reset between reps.

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