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WILLSAN | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 11:51 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | big log clean = big stones? I would say the log clean is the closest lift to stones without doing stones. training stones is a pain in the arse to thats what id do instead. | ||
PAGAN | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 11:56 | |
I took about £4 out of Sooty's bottom Member 685, 8719 posts SQ 225, BP 150, DL 290665.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said:big log clean = big stones? I would say the log clean is the closest lift to stones without doing stones. training stones is a pain in the arse to thats what id do instead. Barrel / sandbag loading or shouldering would be my choice if I didn't have access to stones and or didn't want to get up to my eyes in tacky. | ||
FatHubble | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 12:03 | |
a.k.a. Kick Ass Show Joe Member 526, 1071 posts | MrSmall said: Stones is a lot of technique as well though, Put it on your knee then onto a platform of your choice | ||
MrSmall | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 12:04 | |
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq | FatHubble said: Put it on your knee then onto a platform of your choice Maybe for Kick Ass Show Joes, not for others | ||
martinb | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 12:05 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said:big log clean = big stones? I would say the log clean is the closest lift to stones without doing stones. training stones is a pain in the arse to thats what id do instead. what can you log clean compared to your stone? | ||
JC | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 12:07 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | WILLSAN said:big log clean = big stones? I would say the log clean is the closest lift to stones without doing stones. training stones is a pain in the arse to thats what id do instead. I have a decent log clean....all but 150 My stones are wankalicious also | ||
thosebananas | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 12:11 | |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | it you wanna get better at stones... do stones and get stronger in the gym? if you dont want to get tackied, use the collar of an old bar? and put some tape/material on your arms and it grips the rubber of the plates near enough as well as tacky on concrete. | ||
chrism66 | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 14:28 | |
Member 1699, 77 posts | Wayne_Cowdrey said:Lapping is more about effective use of tacky plus arm strength than anything else. I'd say it's rare to fail a stone lap due to insufficient back strength. Depends on you style of stone lifting, some guys use a long pull approach to lap the weight the resembles something similar to a stiff leg deadlift and others use a row movement where they hunch over the stone and pull it to the chest using their lats and arms and sit back with the weight. You have a good point, so extra exercises for stones could be platform deads and grip work. what type of grip work would you say has a good carry over to stones? | ||
Wayne_Cowdrey | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 14:35 | |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | chrism66 said: what type of grip work would you say has a good carry over to stones? Heavy wrist curls would maybe help? To improve stone gripping strength.... practise lifting stones!! Another idea... dare I say it... sometimes train without tacky? (I'm going to get flooded with bicep tear comments now!!) | ||
Wayne_Cowdrey | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 14:37 | |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | JC said: My stones are wankalicious Even I've beaten you.... more than once | ||
BigSam | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 14:54 | |
HORRIBLE MEDLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Member 621, 4744 posts SQ 340, BP 220, DL 335895.0 kgs @ 106kgs Eq | Wayne I don't think tackyless stones is a bicep buster! Iv done 160kg stone without tacky to 55inch! If your technique isn't to sloppy I don't think your in danger! | ||
JC | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 14:57 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: Even I've beaten you.... more than once More than once? Once at BSM 2008 surely......or did you also beat me at UKs 2009? Oh, the shame | ||
Wayne_Cowdrey | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 14:58 | |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | I only train stones occasionally, but I trained without tacky for a long time and never felt any strain in my biceps. | ||
Wayne_Cowdrey | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 14:59 | |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22062 posts | JC said: did you also beat me at UKs 2009? Yep | ||
Craig_Pfisterer | ... | 15-09-2010 @ 15:07 | |
Sugdens 'man' at WSM 2021 Member 1513, 2139 posts SQ 224.5, BP 181, DL 276.5682.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 15.09.2010 @ 15:09 PM by Craig_Pfisterer I love stone lifting. Actually going to give a go at a 483lbs stone at a comp this Saturday (it's a bonus stone after the series).Spend very little time doing heavy stones, maybe once every few months. Most of the time it's extension drills (load to 57", load to 65" and then 73" is one set) or speed singles/doubles (usually no tack). Sometimes go for heavy singles no tack too (385lbs my best so far and next stone up is 427lbs haha). Rarely do reps. Lowest platform I load to in training is 51.5" (we do have a 44" but it's rarely used, only for heavy series or getting used to a new heavy stone). I'll also do keg loading too. I like reps for these. Most of my stone training is gym based. The bear hug plate lift for reps was great when I didn't have access to stones (went from 330lbs to 405lbs in 8 months). I did these for sets of 8 one motioning it. Most I did was 301lbs. Other good exercises have been safety squat bar goodmornings, safety squat bar back extensions, rack pulls against a lot of band tension (200-300lbs), cheat style wide grip rows, cheat style rear delt raises, box squats, zercher squats or rack lifts, 6" platform deadlifts, snatch grip deadlifts and stiff legged sumo deadlifts. Don't get much out of front squats (365lbs for 2 but I've done a 435lbs stone to 54"). EDIT: I am 6'7" so take my advice with a grain of salt haha. | ||