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RobIcon...19-05-2007 @ 13:13 
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Just a few tips!

- Try a *slightly* wider stance (maybe 4-5 inches more each foot).
- Point your toes out a little bit more.
- Concentrate on pulling yourself down on the descent.
- Try and open your legs up a little and sit into them.

Basically your form isn't that bad you just need to go a lot deeper, maybe some hip stretches will help. Try not to get used to walking the bar out forwards either, when it gets heavy you don't want to be racking it backwards (although perhaps this was just for the sake of the video).
NeilIcon...20-05-2007 @ 11:58 
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Thanks for the tips Rob. What I'll do is lower the weight a try to alter my form as per your recommendations. Sounds like what you've suggested would put me more in line with what I am used to seeing others doing.

One question though. What are hip stretches?
RobIcon...20-05-2007 @ 12:30 
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By hip stretches I just mean some stretches for the hips - if they are too tight they can often be the reason for people struggling to make depth on squats.

A good stretch is to sit with your back against a wall in a deep squat position, gradually sinking into your hips. Best to do this after training or on your off days, stretching your hip flexors beforehand can help loosen you up as well.
BoarIcon...20-05-2007 @ 13:21 
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Post Edited: 20.05.2007 @ 13:23 PM
aahhh , yes , widen your stance a little , my vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GRbS3R4tSQ

(i wont subject you to the embedded version !!)

this is about the highest you should go (as i squat high compared to rob) but its deep enough for you to practise with - i have recently pointed my toes out a little more and it helps me sit back into the squat and prevents my knees coming out over my toes (which often means you think you going lower but its not at the hips so much but the knees. (knees high, easier for hips to dip below knee level)

just take it slow but sure, if you dive bomb below parallel next session you might twang somthing
NeilIcon...20-05-2007 @ 14:12 
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Cool, thanks for the advice. I'm trying to take it all on board. I'll definitely lower the weight and take it easier with this new form. Once I feel like I've got it sussed I'll take another video and we'll see if I've improved or not. Then I'll go for upping the weight.

Cheers again guys. This is invaluable to me cos at the moment I don't know of any PL style gyms nearby. I'm in this for the long term so I don't mind cutting back on the weight and sorting out my form NOW rather than hitting problems further down the line.

One more video to come on Tuesday when I do my deadlifts, and then I won't subject you to any more until I feel like I've made improvements!
HaydenIcon...20-05-2007 @ 14:32 
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I would say to video every squat session you do and post it up here. Than you can be told what you have sussed and what to work on next, this is what i did and my form is much much better than it was before(see my log). You may feel like s**t because you cant get it right but when you finally get it right you will feel on top of the worldHappy. Lookin forward to seein your progress.
NeilIcon...20-05-2007 @ 16:38 
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I'll go check your log out now. But yeah you're right. I've already spent the best part of 30mins squatting against the wall trying to get the feel of it. My kids think I'm going a bit nuts! At least I've got an understanding (read, long suffering) wife.

TBH when I look at some of the other videos I just think f*ck they're good, so it's a bit embarrassing to put mine up. At the same time I've really got to start somewhere.

Onwards and sideways eh.

Talking about my kids here's my little princess, she's only 3 but she does a great DESTROYER pose... heh Happy

littlegirlbunnyIcon...20-05-2007 @ 17:59 
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Originally posted by Neil...
TBH when I look at some of the other videos I just think f*ck they're good, so it's a bit embarrassing to put mine up. At the same time I've really got to start somewhere.


I know that exact feeling - it's awful putting up videos when everyone else seems to be doing better/lifting more. But it really is worth it. I did it with my squat on another site a while back and I got sooooo much advice. Best thing I did (if one of the more embarrassing ones!)

Best of luck - the guys on here always give good advice so that, with a bit of trial and error, and i'm sure you'll be well on the way!
BoarIcon...20-05-2007 @ 18:25 
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LOL, i've found women make the best destroyers ...........

deadlift vid is a must !! try for a bit of a side on view too
HaydenIcon...20-05-2007 @ 18:36 
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Post Edited: 20.05.2007 @ 18:41 PM
Ye neil mate, i know the feeling of 'crap, these guys are well better than me'. Just take a deep breath and get the vids up, nothing else has helped me as much as putting up videos of my lifts.

P.S I wish my destroyer pose was as good as that Unhappy
NeilIcon...22-05-2007 @ 13:01 
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Tuesday 22nd May

DL: 90 x 6, 140 x 5 (see video), 150 x 5 (see video), 182.5 x 1 (PB! - see video), 130 x 5.
Widegrip chins: BW x 8 x 3 - 2mins rest between
BB Rows: 55 x 8 x 3 - 2mins rest between
BB curls: 35 x 8 x 3 - 2mins rest between

140kg x 5



150kg x 5



Originally posted by Rob...
You should be able to nail 400lb deadlift easy with 160 for 5s.

I'm pleased to report you were indeed correct Grin

182.5kg x 1



As you can imagine, I'm pretty chuffed about getting in that 400lb DL. Not sure I worked up to it properly because I don't know the best way to try to attempt a 1RM.

As per usual, any tips on technique greatly appreciated.
HaydenIcon...22-05-2007 @ 13:20 
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Post Edited: 22.05.2007 @ 13:42 PM
Have you ever tried repping using a deadstop at the bottom? I find it is much more effective and gets you more explosive off the floor.

P.S well done on the PB it looked easy.Grin
JoniIcon...22-05-2007 @ 13:30 
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exellent milestone, 400lbs bagged!
littlegirlbunnyIcon...22-05-2007 @ 13:31 
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Bloody hell! The 182.5 kg was pretty quick for a PB! Good work

Hey, just a question, but your bar - is it a standard olly bar? The only reason i'm asking is that it looks quite thick on the video.....but it may just be the camera or something.
RobIcon...22-05-2007 @ 14:02 
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Post Edited: 22.05.2007 @ 14:14 PM
Nice work on the PB mate, looked dead easy. You're also essentially doing a small platform deadlift because an oly bar would be higher up your shins at the start - can't be far off 200 on a proper setup.

- Form looks good too! Would do all your reps from a deadstop though personally.

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