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Tom_MartinIcon...23-10-2012 @ 14:18 
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No one believed him anyway.
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JC said:
the substance Lewis got tested positive for, has subsequently been removed from the banned list...Lewis has said a number of times that this proves the substance isn't performance enhancing
I agree with your main point though


Eh? Why would he take it then? If we accept it doesn't help performance, you can't really overlook that he took something which was firstly, on the banned substance list, and secondly, he obviously considered to be a worthwhile enough performance aid to take in the first place. No one takes ephedrine because it doesn't do f**k all and is just fun to swallow something.
JCIcon...23-10-2012 @ 14:18 
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Sparrow said:
I thought it was ephedrine?


I dont know what it was, just that in the recent BBC docu about the 10 finalist who ran in the Seoul Johnson final, it said the substance was removed from the WADA banned list sometime in the 90s

Of those 10 finalists, only Lewis and some Brazilian geezer have not since been banned for steroid use

Its rife (or at least was rife) everywhere in top level sport...dirty bas***ds Wink
paul_richardsIcon...23-10-2012 @ 14:48 
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Surely the argument is not drugs or not, its the fact he cheated and broke the rules. Therefore he should be made an example of.

If you and your mate go shoplifting, your mate gets away but you get caught, should you be let off.
siwaniakIcon...23-10-2012 @ 15:41 
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chaos said:
You need to update your profile weight fat cnt!
Although for once you do talk a small amount of sense!


Chaos You know about this to You are fat,ugly c**t,but I still love You like sister
I will update when i check my BW
DanIcon...23-10-2012 @ 15:49 
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Fatpete said:Not really, in a sport full of cheats he stood out as the biggest cheat of the lot.


In a sport full of cheats he still won.
What makes him more of a cheat than the others ?

I think it's bulls**t to be honest, he is being made a scapegoat, the guy is a legend and my opinion is every one he beat was using too, so why strip him of his titles. Utter bo***cks IMO.
josh_ainsIcon...23-10-2012 @ 16:14 
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Sparrow said:
I thought it was ephedrine?



I think it was this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylpropanolamine
OwenLIcon...23-10-2012 @ 16:20 
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Dan said:
In a sport full of cheats he still won.
What makes him more of a cheat than the others ?
I think it's bulls**t to be honest, he is being made a scapegoat, the guy is a legend and my opinion is every one he beat was using too, so why strip him of his titles. Utter bo***cks IMO.


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WILLSANIcon...23-10-2012 @ 16:34 
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Dan said:
In a sport full of cheats he still won.
What makes him more of a cheat than the others ?
I think it's bulls**t to be honest, he is being made a scapegoat, the guy is a legend and my opinion is every one he beat was using too, so why strip him of his titles. Utter bo***cks IMO.


Could any credible sporting body let someone who cheated their way to victory keep their titles?

And how is he a scapegoat? Seems to me that the other athletes of that era and the sport as a whole has been tarnished by the issue.

Regarding retrospective testing and punishment, I think it's a positive thing. Maybe those who are able to work the system now will think twice if they think there's the chance they might get the same treatment as Armstrong further down line.
CuddlesIcon...23-10-2012 @ 16:37 
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Dan said:
What makes him more of a cheat than the others ?


Agreed.

So, what makes him different to the others?

You seem to want him to be treated differently, that is all.
IainKendrickIcon...23-10-2012 @ 17:11 
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A few pgs later and he's still a cheat, and it's still a good thing he's been busted. Did I miss anything else?

Problem is even though everyone was cheating it dose not mean he'd have won as much as he did if everyone was 'clean'. We'll just never know.
IainKendrickIcon...23-10-2012 @ 17:14 
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chaos said:
100% clean! Asked this question other day to fella at work, said cos his times are so far off the old times (at height of use) as one reason but htere were others! Wiggins has also said drugs is still rife but only around 30% use now!!!!! Compared to when it used to be 70% using!!!


Or what about less drugs? Tongue
IainKendrickIcon...23-10-2012 @ 17:20 
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Dan said:
In a sport full of cheats he still won.
What makes him more of a cheat than the others ?
I think it's bulls**t to be honest, he is being made a scapegoat, the guy is a legend and my opinion is every one he beat was using too, so why strip him of his titles. Utter bo***cks IMO.


So if you a legend you should be allowed to cheat?

Cheated &rt; found out &rt; punished. It's pretty simple, and has clearly happened to a large proportion of his peers.
sexymikehowarthIcon...23-10-2012 @ 18:07 
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I didn't find out until today that he failed a drugs test

Still, with the whitch hunt from the authorities I guess they were always going to catch him out or tamper with his sample

The sport and governing body look very much unprofessional in this pursuit
sexymikehowarthIcon...23-10-2012 @ 18:08 
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Fingers crossed for Wiggins too
CuddlesIcon...23-10-2012 @ 18:54 
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Quite an interesting piece on PEDS in cycling.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert-millar/the-bare-minimu...

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