Does Shoulder work hinder your Bench ?

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MrSmall		...	13-02-2010 @ 18:49
Gone and easily forgotten....... Member 331, 22298 posts SQ 185, BP 100, DL 230 515.0 kgs @ 85kgs UnEq	MattGriff said: There is a saying in the strength community that I do quite like (other than my fav from KK) To press alot you have to press alot What is your fav by KK?

JC		...	13-02-2010 @ 20:38
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335 850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq	NO! Big OH or Big bench, boulder shoulders are the future

moz		...	14-02-2010 @ 15:13
Feasting on humble pie. Member 51, 1692 posts SQ 227.5, BP 185, DL 272.5 685.0 kgs @ 90.4kgs UnEq	MattGriff said: There is a saying in the strength community that I do quite like (other than my fav from KK) To press alot you have to press alot I think thats a rip off from Boris Shekio's "to bench more, bench more often". I think if your gonna do strongman or Oly lifting or any thing else that requires a lot of OH then do a lot of OH. if your PL then do a lot of bench. sports specific. btw Wes it was me that told you that. based on my own experiences.

Cuddles		...	14-02-2010 @ 15:28
Eat.Cycle.Sleep.Win Member 2, 12511 posts SQ 190, BP 150, DL 280 620.0 kgs @ 99kgs UnEq Administrator	JC said:boulder shoulders are the future LOL, straight from the old school Sugden phrasebook.

nathan		...	14-02-2010 @ 15:31
no longer sugdens strongest man Member 455, 1336 posts	WHy would shouder work hinder ur bench?? all i can see is it being a postive does squats hinder ur deadlift cause ur using ur lower back it all carries over

Steve		...	14-02-2010 @ 15:41
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	moz said: I think thats a rip off from Boris Shekio's "to bench more, bench more often". I think if your gonna do strongman or Oly lifting or any thing else that requires a lot of OH then do a lot of OH. if your PL then do a lot of bench. sports specific. btw Wes it was me that told you that. based on my own experiences. I haven't seen many people stronger overhead with static movements than Tony Stevens was when he was at his best as a powerlifter (unequipped narrow grip benching in training over 225kg at 100kg).

MarkClegg		...	14-02-2010 @ 15:46
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370 907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Steve said: I haven't seen many people stronger overhead with static movements than Tony Stevens was when he was at his best as a powerlifter (unequipped narrow grip benching in training over 225kg at 100kg). Overhead Narrow Grip Bench ..?


MarkClegg		...	14-02-2010 @ 15:58
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370 907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 14.02.2010 @ 15:59 PM by MarkClegg Steve .. !!! Whats he done overhead then ?? Coz i trained with him at Crystal Palace for a couple of years and never seen him put anything over his head ever .. I`m not trying to be funny - just asking brother ????

Steve		...	14-02-2010 @ 16:18
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	MarkClegg said:Steve .. !!! Whats he done overhead then ?? Coz i trained with him at Crystal Palace for a couple of years and never seen him put anything over his head ever .. I`m not trying to be funny - just asking brother ???? I am talking of around 25 years ago and not overhead as in barbell press/jerk - Nowadyas he's not got the mobility (although I think his best clean & jerked was close to 180kg at 90kg bwt in the very distant past). He used to do overhead work on the old Unviversal multi gym. The strongest lifters around would manage approx 2/3 of the stack standing for a single - Tony would sit side on and do the whole stack for 10 reps one arm at a time.

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	14-02-2010 @ 16:35
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22060 posts	Steve said: He used to do overhead work on the old Unviversal multi gym. The strongest lifters around would manage approx 2/3 of the stack standing for a single - Tony would sit side on and do the whole stack for 10 reps one arm at a time. Did you witness this?

Steve		...	14-02-2010 @ 16:48
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts	Wayne_Cowdrey said: Did you witness this? Yes - I trained at Crystal Palace for over 10 years. Tony had just become IPF World Champion for the third time.

MarkClegg		...	14-02-2010 @ 17:01
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370 907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	your an old f**ker then Steve ..

Tom_Martin		...	14-02-2010 @ 17:24
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 425 1050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq	I'd imagine not benching hinders bench press progress. I'd imagine doing both hinders neither. I'd imagine doing neither hinders both. If I leg press, will it hinder my lat pulldown...?

MattGriff		...	14-02-2010 @ 17:26
Member 194, 3976 posts	MrSmall said: What is your fav by KK? "Strap your cock on, leave your pussy at home, put a bar acorss your back and bend your knees"

Wayne_Cowdrey		...	14-02-2010 @ 17:43
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22060 posts	Steve said: Wayne_Cowdrey said: Did you witness this? Yes - I trained at Crystal Palace for over 10 years. Tony had just become IPF World Champion for the third time. OK. Very impressive. But, the guys who could only manage 2/3 of the stack for 1 rep with both arms couldn't have been "the strongest guys around"!! I've easily repped with the whole stack on shoulder press machines in the past (with both arms of course)!!

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