Drug's Failure at the GBPF British Classic Championship 2012

paddymc1986 said:wasn't he planning on doing the vikingr comp next year?
maybe he just wanted to leave powerlifting with a bang

dr_hazbun said:
True that.
Shame that it took a national level comp to catch him. I'd like to get these people ideally weeded out at regional level comps before they get to nationals (difficult with invitational/open entry comps) but that's my ideal. I'm not naive and know money is a limiting factor here but I'm looking into the details.

Martin1956 said:
Agreed 100% Sam. Funnily enough I got into quite a heated exchange with Force10 when I suggested that you should be a member and available for testing before you can enter a local comp. IIRC he inferred that I was a juicer.
Hopefully we'll get to regional testing soon. FWIW, I did the Scottish BDFPA Single Lifts a few weeks ago and there WAS testing at that level. GBPF needs to do the same. Not sure how with testing costs, but it needs to be done. Trouble is, funds that could be used to develop the sport will be directed to cheater catching instead. No easy answers.

Mark said:
It could be argued that cleaning up the desired Feds would help develop the sport.

Martin1956 said:
Agreed 100% Sam. Funnily enough I got into quite a heated exchange with Force10 when I suggested that you should be a member and available for testing before you can enter a local comp. IIRC he inferred that I was a juicer.
Hopefully we'll get to regional testing soon. FWIW, I did the Scottish BDFPA Single Lifts a few weeks ago and there WAS testing at that level. GBPF needs to do the same. Not sure how with testing costs, but it needs to be done. Trouble is, funds that could be used to develop the sport will be directed to cheater catching instead. No easy answers.

milsy said:
some people I train with compete in the bdfpa and I helped coach at the British champs and was speaking to the chairman of the fed and he was telling me about the testing and said he had 10 kits in the boot of his car that if he felt the need to could walk up to any member of the fed that day and ask them to provide a sample even if they were spectating seemed like a good way to put abit of fear who think they are above the testers
I think the tests they use are alot cheaper due to how they are collected and tested I know gbpf have to provide certain tests at national level to reach the requirements of the ipf and that is why they cost more but surly if a much cheaper test was available this could be used at regional and even out of comp testing and just leave the expensive tests for nationals and team members and do the amount required to comply with ipf

jrepp said:
True about the cheaper tests but aint there a lot more gbpf members than bdfpa?? So the gbpf have more money to use for testing?

brynevans said:One problem doing a cheaper test(ie not in accordance with WADA) is that it would be difficult to enforce. You have to used a WADA accredited sample collection officer and a WADA lab this costs more, it's the same as what's required of Olympic athletes. That's not to say BDFPA tests are not accurate it's just that they don't need to follow the same strict protocol.

force10 said:Sorry its took me untill now to respond to this thread.

As many of you are very unhappy with the results for my drug test its nothing as unhappy as I am at the moment.

The use of something on the banned substance list was not intentional by any means but an oversight on my behalf as I didnt research some of the ingreedients properly and this is the same when a gbpf referee was consulted, asked, as the substance Methylhexaneamine comes under various names dependant on the manurefacturer and what product its put into.

After having many emails, txts and telephone calls from fellow lifters since this was made public it seems a very large portion of lifters were and are unaware that some things that can be bought from local health food shops have ingredients that are on the banned substance list. I was one of them.

force10 said:Sorry its took me untill now to respond to this thread.

As many of you are very unhappy with the results for my drug test its nothing as unhappy as I am at the moment.

The use of something on the banned substance list was not intentional by any means but an oversight on my behalf as I didnt research some of the ingreedients properly and this is the same when a gbpf referee was consulted, asked, as the substance Methylhexaneamine comes under various names dependant on the manurefacturer and what product its put into.

After having many emails, txts and telephone calls from fellow lifters since this was made public it seems a very large portion of lifters were and are unaware that some things that can be bought from local health food shops have ingredients that are on the banned substance list. I was one of them.

Tom_Martin said:
Otherwise known as 1,3 dimethylamylamine, the banned substance found in Jack3d. I wouldn't have thought this would have accounted for the multiple anabolic substance found in your test as reported by Bryn?
Bryn do you know exactly what was found in his sample?
Not saying I don't believe either of you, just that the two accounts given by yourself and Bryn don't exactly match up?