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Fatpete | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 12:53 | |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17933 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | VanillaGorilla said: I disagree Pete. How did the substance get in your sample? Please feel free to. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that if under the circumstances I describe, I were to test positive, that I would not be my fault - it would be. Nor am I saying that I should not be banned - I should be. After all the test was positive and there is no-one to blame other than me, so I have to take the consequences. What I am saying is that I have never knowingly taken performance enhancing drugs. But I have been told that the list of them is long and impressive. I am also told that most members of the general public would fail a test, especially if they were a little under the weather at the time. The reason for this (I am told) is that many over the counter cold remedies and such contain banned substances and so a powerlifter taking a couple of lemsips and being tested at an inopportune time could well fail a test and face a ban. Is he guilty - yes Is there anyone other than him to blame - no Is there a difference between the example above and someone going out and buying phials of steroids and injecting himself every other day with it - yes. I think there is. Is it a bit rum to tar everyone with the same brush - yes, I think that also You may wish to disagree again. | ||
baldy | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 12:56 | |
aka The Scorer Member 1195, 861 posts SQ 165, BP 110, DL 232.5507.5 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | force10 said:Theres quite alot of factors in the situation that none of you know the full details of... Reminds me very much of.. | ||
Fatpete | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 12:59 | |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17933 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | 21 members and 14 guests. People seem interested. | ||
TravisFandango | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:03 | |
Member 1093, 5446 posts SQ 160, BP 105, DL 225490.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Fatpete said:21 members and 14 guests. People seem interested. I am! It's all jolly interesting. Does anyone have a link to the list of banned substances? Are even the performance debilitating ones banned? | ||
Steve | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:07 | |
nothing to hide, please follow my life on webcam Member 255, 3732 posts | Fatpete said: Please feel free to. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that if under the circumstances I describe, I were to test positive, that I would not be my fault - it would be. Nor am I saying that I should not be banned - I should be. After all the test was positive and there is no-one to blame other than me, so I have to take the consequences. What I am saying is that I have never knowingly taken performance enhancing drugs. But I have been told that the list of them is long and impressive. I am also told that most members of the general public would fail a test, especially if they were a little under the weather at the time. The reason for this (I am told) is that many over the counter cold remedies and such contain banned substances and so a powerlifter taking a couple of lemsips and being tested at an inopportune time could well fail a test and face a ban. Is he guilty - yes Is there anyone other than him to blame - no Is there a difference between the example above and someone going out and buying phials of steroids and injecting himself every other day with it - yes. I think there is. Is it a bit rum to tar everyone with the same brush - yes, I think that also You may wish to disagree again. You are completely right Pete, though athletes testing positive for OTC cold remidies usually receive no more than a 3 month ban (effectively nothing for most lifters) and are disqualified from the competition. | ||
Tom_Martin | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:10 | |
No one believed him anyway. Member 958, 11411 posts SQ 410, BP 215, DL 4251050.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | I'm trying to wrap my head around this guys objectives here, I've come up with a list. 1. Defend GBPF against non existent enemies. 2. Accuse anyone stronger than him of being on gear. 3. Make anyone who disagrees with him out to be an enemy of the GBPF. 4. Defend non existent attack from imaginary enemy created from point 3. 5. Be confusing as f**k to subvert his responsibility for failing a test which found anabolics present. 6. Troll the living s**t out of all of us!?!?!? | ||
Rodger | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:11 | |
salad dodger *missing* Member 1805, 10367 posts SQ 215, BP 121, DL 240576.0 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | TravisFandango said: I am! It's all jolly interesting. Does anyone have a link to the list of banned substances? Are even the performance debilitating ones banned? http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/World_Anti-Doping_Program/WA... | ||
ursus | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:11 | |
Man up and have a fuckin coffee Member 2086, 9717 posts SQ 340, BP 252.5, DL 300892.5 kgs @ 158kgs UnEq | I have met Si a couple of times and he seems a nice guy i dont care much for seeing him ripped apart on a forum BUT i do think he could address some issues and have told him that aswell via PM . So i think instead of going straight for the jugular we can get the answers we want and hopefuly the truth in a decent way and that goes the same for Si dont go accussing fellow lifters keep your cool and answer the questions . | ||
walker | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:16 | |
Does not need Advice, knows everything. Member 3505, 3510 posts SQ 295, BP 182.5, DL 290767.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Tom_Martin said:I'm trying to wrap my head around this guys objectives here, I've come up with a list. 1. Defend GBPF against non existent enemies. 2. Accuse anyone stronger than him of being on gear. 3. Make anyone who disagrees with him out to be an enemy of the GBPF. 4. Defend non existent attack from imaginary enemy created from point 3. 5. Be confusing as f**k to subvert his responsibility for failing a test which found anabolics present. 6. Troll the living s**t out of all of us!?!?!? And he still hasn't said what he got from the 'health food store' | ||
TravisFandango | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:22 | |
Member 1093, 5446 posts SQ 160, BP 105, DL 225490.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 05.11.2012 @ 13:39 PM by TravisFandango Rodger said: http://www.wada-ama.org/Documents/World_Anti-Doping_Program/WA... Cheers Rodge! Performance debilitating subtances are banned then, oh well. Edit: I see heroin is banned too! I'd actually pay decent money to watch a smack head powerlifting comp. Edit 2: I can't see LSD on the list. | ||
davidhowarth | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:22 | |
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samevans | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:24 | |
just got PM'd Member 1945, 685 posts | Fatpete said: Please feel free to. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that if under the circumstances I describe, I were to test positive, that I would not be my fault - it would be. Nor am I saying that I should not be banned - I should be. After all the test was positive and there is no-one to blame other than me, so I have to take the consequences. What I am saying is that I have never knowingly taken performance enhancing drugs. But I have been told that the list of them is long and impressive. I am also told that most members of the general public would fail a test, especially if they were a little under the weather at the time. The reason for this (I am told) is that many over the counter cold remedies and such contain banned substances and so a powerlifter taking a couple of lemsips and being tested at an inopportune time could well fail a test and face a ban. Is he guilty - yes Is there anyone other than him to blame - no Is there a difference between the example above and someone going out and buying phials of steroids and injecting himself every other day with it - yes. I think there is. Is it a bit rum to tar everyone with the same brush - yes, I think that also You may wish to disagree again. i agree with this, also with ursus last comment | ||
VanillaGorilla | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:25 | |
the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | Fatpete said: Please feel free to. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that if under the circumstances I describe, I were to test positive, that I would not be my fault - it would be. Nor am I saying that I should not be banned - I should be. After all the test was positive and there is no-one to blame other than me, so I have to take the consequences. What I am saying is that I have never knowingly taken performance enhancing drugs. But I have been told that the list of them is long and impressive. I am also told that most members of the general public would fail a test, especially if they were a little under the weather at the time. The reason for this (I am told) is that many over the counter cold remedies and such contain banned substances and so a powerlifter taking a couple of lemsips and being tested at an inopportune time could well fail a test and face a ban. Is he guilty - yes Is there anyone other than him to blame - no Is there a difference between the example above and someone going out and buying phials of steroids and injecting himself every other day with it - yes. I think there is. Is it a bit rum to tar everyone with the same brush - yes, I think that also You may wish to disagree again. Actually, I think with that explanation your circle of opinion has converged rather more with mine. | ||
baldt | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:29 | |
Member 1589, 1219 posts SQ 300, BP 260, DL 345905.0 kgs @ 108kgs Eq | am I the only one who was more annoyed with the poor spelling than the positive test? | ||
baldt | ... | 05-11-2012 @ 13:30 | |
Member 1589, 1219 posts SQ 300, BP 260, DL 345905.0 kgs @ 108kgs Eq | what happens when you test positive? do you get a letter with the isotopes they have found on it? it would be interesting to see what he tested positive for, I dont know why GBPF cant post the drug involved if they can name the athlete. | ||
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