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| Martin1956 |  | ... | 22-10-2007 @ 19:53 |
 Old Age Presser Member 75, 7745 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Reflection on yesterday... I didn't realise until I read Joni's post and watched the first 191 fail again that I'd hit the left support on the way up. That explains a lot. I got it past my normal sticking point and once I do that I can normally lock it. So really I just need to get further down the bench! If only everything in life was that simple! Tonight's workout... It was supposed to be an exploratory session to see what I can do with one purple band, but it turned into one of the hardest bench workouts I've had in ages. I've a deep doms sensation in my arms that I don't remember ever having before, and it kicked in before I even left the gym. All weights are plus one purple, which I reckon adds about 35 kilos at the top. Bar for 10 40 for 5 60 for 5 70 for 5 80 for 5 90 for 5 100 for 5 110 for 5 120 for 5 (indescribably hard) 110 for 5 100 for 5 90 for 5 80 for 5 70 for 5 5 sets of facepulls and that was it. Stayed to do a bit of coaching with a few lads who were interested in the bands and to spot Dave Littler. He got the 130 he missed yesterday - after five heavy threes as well - Sod's law. Everything is now geared towards 192.5 in Czech Republic, which will be followed by a well deserved restful December. | ||
| nico | | ... | 22-10-2007 @ 19:55 |
 just smoked Ed and Neil - EAT MY GOAL Member 120, 1582 posts | good stuff Martin, as was said above, it didn't look like you were miles away. Just a matter of time. | ||
| Rick | | ... | 22-10-2007 @ 19:58 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Originally posted by Martin1956... I didn't realise until I read Joni's post and watched the first 191 fail again that I'd hit the left support on the way up. That explains a lot. I got it past my normal sticking point and once I do that I can normally lock it. So really I just need to get further down the bench! I think you would have on the second attempt if you'd got that far, too. You were pressing straight underneath the bar hook. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 22-10-2007 @ 20:03 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7745 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Originally posted by Rick... Originally posted by Martin1956... I didn't realise until I read Joni's post and watched the first 191 fail again that I'd hit the left support on the way up. That explains a lot. I got it past my normal sticking point and once I do that I can normally lock it. So really I just need to get further down the bench! I think you would have on the second attempt if you'd got that far, too. You were pressing straight underneath the bar hook. I'll blame the bench, then! Don't think I'd have got the third attempt with a forklift I was that shattered. Yet tonight I felt really strong in the gym. Nuts! | ||
| Joni | | ... | 22-10-2007 @ 21:31 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | yes mate, you see suprisingly well what is going on when you have the front of the front row seats  you were not the only one though, quite a few went to the pins with their presses. Dont know if the bench was in a position which encouraged staying high, or what? | ||
| Boar | | ... | 22-10-2007 @ 21:34 |
 Nothing left in the tank. Member 5, 25568 posts Administrator | well done martin , what comp is in the Czech Republic ? I used the purple band with rob and really enjoyed it, an interesting addition to bench training | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 22-10-2007 @ 22:24 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7745 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Originally posted by Boar... well done martin , what comp is in the Czech Republic ? I used the purple band with rob and really enjoyed it, an interesting addition to bench training Thanks, mate. The Czech Republic is the EPF European Masters Bench. The really interesting set up is 2 purples close and a black mini wide each side. A lad in the gym tonight did that plus 30 a side on the bar. I tried it and couldn't move it, but it was 20 minutes after I had finished my sets and my arms were just fried. I'm going to be using one purple on my ME days. That gives "real" weight on the bar as well as some lockout focus. On DE days I'm using two purples and doing 10 sets of 3 - hopefully with an 80 kilo bar. That will allow me to fire it off the chest fast and murder the lock out at the top. | ||
| Rob | | ... | 22-10-2007 @ 22:38 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | Do you prefer them over chains then Martin, because you've used them at Catt's haven't you? | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 23-10-2007 @ 10:42 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7745 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Originally posted by Rob... Do you prefer them over chains then Martin, because you've used them at Catt's haven't you? Only one man's opinion, of course, but that opinion is that bands are vastly superior to chains. With chains you have only a single resistance curve (unless you use more than one set simultaneously) and they're not particularly portable if you train in more than one gym. You can set up bands to work any point in the stroke. For example, in yesterday's workout I did a set of 5 with 120 plus one band and that works more or less the whole movement - you still have to work to get 120 off the chest and you get the equivalent of 155ish at the top. You can also set up two bands and two minis with a 40 kilo bar and most gym goers couldn't move it. Or, and here's the beauty of bands, ANYTHING IN BETWEEN THESE TWO EXTREMES. Plus you get the "accelerated gravity" effect with bands. Simplistically, on the down stroke the bands try to catapault the bar back to your chest, and working to prevent that happening gives you something similar (but not the same) as a negative rep. Whereas with chains the bar just gets lighter. And the bands weigh next to nothing and fit easily into a gym bag. I'll have to take them over to Adders one day and you can all try them out and judge for yourself. | ||
| Rob | | ... | 23-10-2007 @ 13:20 |
Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | Cool, we have bands actually I've used them quite a lot just wanted to see what you thought about the chains. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 23-10-2007 @ 18:02 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7745 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Ok. Do you have normals and minis? Should've added for the benefit of anyone who doesn't know that bands are primarily an aid to equipped benching, not raw. Not to say the occasional band session is a bad thing for a raw lifter, of course. | ||
| Rob | | ... | 23-10-2007 @ 18:42 |
Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | We have mini-bands through to the green band which is just ridiculous tension - holding that thing at lockout was so hard. I agree they're designed better for the shirt but certainly beneficial to bringing up the triceps and speed for a raw lifter. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 24-10-2007 @ 18:00 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7745 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Today's workout. Felt really flat/sluggish and sickly. 5 sets of lat pulldowns 5 sets of seated t-bar rows 4 sets of machine side delt raises a pathetic attempt at hammer curls 35 minutes cv - NEW OUTPUT PB - 581 calories. Sweated like a reporter with a gold leotard fetish but managed to keep going. Bench tomorrow and if I don't feel any better I'll rest up until Monday. But more important than any of that, the missing link arrived today... | ||
| tbench | | ... | 24-10-2007 @ 20:03 |
 addicted to bench press, needs help Member 80, 1384 posts SQ 175, BP 160, DL 240575.0 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | take the rest mate you have done alot of heavy benching in a short time with all the comps,whats the missing link the F6? | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 24-10-2007 @ 20:12 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7745 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | I'm just waiting for Rob to insert something and then the missing link will be revealed! | ||
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