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| Martin1956 |  | ... | 28-09-2007 @ 19:59 |
 Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Originally posted by marc... just ordered a pair against your advice  Against my advice? No! I said if you were over 50, not if you LOOKED over 50. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 28-09-2007 @ 20:05 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Tonight was the assistance I would have done yesterday if I hadn't started on the bands. 5 sets of facepulls 7 sets of triceps pressdowns (pyramid) 3 sets of reverse grip triceps pressdowns 35 minutes cardio 6 sets on ab machine 5 sets of sit ups on inclined board. Not trying french curls or skull crushers again until after the October comps, after Tuesday's lucky escape. Triceps were swollen and numb tonight so what I did obviously hit them. Good that the golfers elbow is nearly gone and I can do pressdowns and the like again. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 29-09-2007 @ 19:30 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Saturday's training 12 sets on seated rowing machine (6 on each grip) 5 sets of hyperextensions 4 sets of incline sit ups 7 sets of lat pulldowns 3 sets of hammer curls 15 minutes (gently!) on Concept 11 rowing machine Funny walk to showers... Hadn't done hypers for at least 6 months. Felt dizzy after each set. Will make them last exercise next time. | ||
| Joni | | ... | 29-09-2007 @ 20:07 |
 left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | hey man, nice volume on the pulling stuff! I understand for you rows/pulls are just assistance for pressing, so i was wondering what kinf of weights and progression do you aim to get with them? I mean do you work them hard and heavy, or more like prehab/shoulder health way of pumping blood into the muscles and so on? | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 29-09-2007 @ 22:31 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Don't go too heavy, Joni. Really just looking for body balance. Lats, for example, I start with a light weight and do 16, add a plate and so 15, add a plate and do 14, right down to a 10 set. My golfers elbow is not quite right yet, and I did it doing heavy pulling when my shoulder was bad, so I'm resisting the urge to pull heavy for the moment. I'm kinda substituting volume for heavy sets just to keep the muscles active and working. But every good bencher needs good lats, rhomboids and rear delts, and of course keeping balance reduces the likelihood of rotator cuff problems. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 22:07 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Heavy bench at Catts tonight. Not quite as planned but ok nonetheless. Bar for 10 60 for 10 80 for 6 100 for 4 120 for 3 140 for 2 Half hour rest while I help everyone else do their shirted benching, then loose 46 Fury on and... 160 for 3 off a 2.5 inch board (epls) 170 for 1 (epls) 180 for 1 (had to work for it, but I've worked harder). Then shirt off, bands out and we all had a play. Using two purples under the seat and narrow on the bar... 60 plus bands for 10 80 plus bands for 10 90 plus bands for 6. Pleased with that. I wanted to find out what I can safely do in my loose old shirt, and the answer is that I can piss 170 in it and squeeze out a 180 if I need to. I'll open at 170 in Italy, but haven't worked out what I'll do second lift or in which shirt. I'll have my last shirt session next Monday and decide then. Of course. the F6 might have arrived by then. | ||
| marc | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 22:14 |
 Dancing queenfeel the beat from the tambourine Member 84, 2415 posts SQ 225, BP 170, DL 275670.0 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | I can see a 190+ happening | ||
| badboy007 | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 22:15 |
Dirty little devil Member 138, 356 posts | Martin, hope you don't mind me asking you a few ?s. How long did it take you to hit 140 bp? It's a BIG goal of mine. How would you structure bench training for someone with a 120-125 max(ie. me)? Is Julian M still as funny as ever? He is one funny bas***d, like an human wikipedia of powerlifting. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 22:38 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Originally posted by badboy007... Martin, hope you don't mind me asking you a few ?s. How long did it take you to hit 140 bp? It's a BIG goal of mine. How would you structure bench training for someone with a 120-125 max(ie. me)? Is Julian M still as funny as ever? He is one funny bas***d, like an human wikipedia of powerlifting. In order... I started training in 1985,as part of my rehab following my accident. My first target was bodyweight (about 168 pounds). That took me two years. Then it was 200 pounds, then 100 kilos, then 250 pounds, then 300 pounds, then 140 kilos. I finally hit 140 in February 1997, so it only took me 12 years. Later in 1997 I stopped lifting (owning a gym it was too much like a busman's holiday) and only started again in 2002 when I got so out of shape that I was too embarrassed to wear a vest. I got back to 140 in less than a year (a bit like blowing up a balloon - hard first time, easy if you let the air out and do it again) then plateaued at 140 for a year, and since overcoming the plateau I've managed a number of tiny increases and got my comp pb up to 157.5. The injury last Decemebr really set me back, but I feel I'm now at least as good as I was before the injury. The routine I'd recommend for anyone is to bench twice a week. Once heavy (sets of 3 to five) with 85 to 90% of 1RM and once dynamic with about 55% of 1RM. The dynamic training often feels like it's not doing anything for you, but when I started doing it I got about 7.5 kilos on my 1RM in next to no time. Julian's a great lad - a real character who knows EVERYONE. Stand next to Julian at the banquet if you want to meet lots of people. He's been around so long that he remembers all the old names as well - a real font of knowledge. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 22:40 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Originally posted by marc... I can see a 190+ happening I hope you're right, my friend. Hoping to hit 191 at the NW Bench. Maybe something beginning with 2 at the BWLA BRitish Bench next February with 3 months band work under my belt, if I can stay injury free. | ||
| Rob | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 22:44 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | Martin, do you do any shoulder work or not? You've got a very strong raw bench so I would have thought your shoulders would be pretty strong? Or do you avoid it because of the injury you had maybe? Interesting to see you supporting the speed work even for the beginner benches, a lot of people either seem to love or hate it! Trainings looking good! | ||
| Titch | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 23:18 |
 One Sexy MoFo Member 101, 2470 posts | Ok, someone's gotta fill me in on this accident/injury/disability business, because I don't know anything about it. When I say "someone" I mean you, Martin. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 23:33 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Hi Rob. I didn't have bb down as a beginner when he's doing 120 plus. The first stage of benching is developing a base strength level, but once you get there I think speed work is important on a number of fronts. Firstly, it really helps explosiveness off the chest. Secondly, it helps you to develop your line with a managable weight. Thirdly, it restricts you to one heavy session a week. That means you're generally more up for the heavy one because it's the only one that week, and your joints take less of a battering that would be the case with two heavy ones. I used to work shoulders a lot before my injury and I've tentatively started medium shoulder pressing again recently. Also I've not done any incline benching at all this year, but I'm finding that the bands really hit the front delts superbly. Maybe when I get back from Italy I'll do more shoulder work. It's one of these funny ones. Some good benchers do virtually no shoulder pressing; others swear by it | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 01-10-2007 @ 23:39 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7740 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Originally posted by Titch... Ok, someone's gotta fill me in on this accident/injury/disability business, because I don't know anything about it. When I say "someone" I mean you, Martin. My "disability" is a smashed and mashed right leg following a car crash in 1980. That's why I only bench. My injury is a torn shoulder muscle at the NW Bench last December. I came in to the gym in January, tested it to make sure it was better, and ripped it completely. A week before the BWLA Bench in February I couldn't even bench the bar, but I had a title to defend so I sort of self hypnotized myself to a 165 to retain the title. Next day I couldn't do the bar again! I started back benching in mid April with the shoulder still sore and have gradually got back to where I was pre injury. I have an old log on PLUK (called "Back Training At Last" which records the "journey"). Hope that helps. | ||
| Titch | | ... | 02-10-2007 @ 09:21 |
One Sexy MoFo Member 101, 2470 posts | Originally posted by Martin1956... Originally posted by Titch... Ok, someone's gotta fill me in on this accident/injury/disability business, because I don't know anything about it. When I say "someone" I mean you, Martin. My "disability" is a smashed and mashed right leg following a car crash in 1980. That's why I only bench. My injury is a torn shoulder muscle at the NW Bench last December. I came in to the gym in January, tested it to make sure it was better, and ripped it completely. A week before the BWLA Bench in February I couldn't even bench the bar, but I had a title to defend so I sort of self hypnotized myself to a 165 to retain the title. Next day I couldn't do the bar again! I started back benching in mid April with the shoulder still sore and have gradually got back to where I was pre injury. I have an old log on PLUK (called "Back Training At Last" which records the "journey"). Hope that helps. Thanks Martin. So how bad is your leg? Can you walk unaided? | ||
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