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badboy007Icon...19-09-2007 @ 21:04 
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International is just another level! Awesome to even get there.

Was Julian there?
TonyIcon...19-09-2007 @ 21:06 
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Yes, Martin takes him everywhere.

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badboy007Icon...19-09-2007 @ 21:07 
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LMAO!
Martin1956Icon...19-09-2007 @ 21:14 
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Grin Grin Grin Grin . It's when he tries to take me I get worried. But we're all shirtlifters and proud of it - apart from that straighto Steve Demeis, of course.
Martin1956Icon...20-09-2007 @ 23:01 
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First proper session back tonight. Went in for a gentle one, ended up working really hard.

Bar for 10
40 for 10
60 for 8
80 for 6
100 for 4
120 for 2
140 for 1
170 in shirt off 4 inch board for 1
180 off 2 inch board for 1
185 to touch failed

100 x 3 for 6 sets speed work
60 + band for 5 sets of 8.

And that was it. Not too worried about not getting the 185. Not in shape for that after all the drinking and travelling of the last week (after getting back from Germany Monday evening I drove down to Devon and back Tuesday for the puppy). Never used bands before and they felt grrrrrreat. Hopefully the missing link in the quest for 200.

Decided on my training strategy now. I need to do shirt work, band work, heavy raw and band work every week and my recovery dictates that's all fitted into two sessions. I plan to do shirt work Monday, then follow it with a declining load from 140 back to 100. Max out on 140, reduce bar to 130 and add two reps, reduce to 120 and add two reps...

On Thursday, do four sets of speed work, then a full band session (not decided reps range yet - probably quite high reps to educate the muscles) then another four speed sets as the finishing work.

Not going to do any assistance on either bench night, but will fit it in during the week on the non-bench days.

Really feeling the effects of the bands work. Can't believe the efffect such a light weight has had on my front delts and triceps. Looking forward to next Thursday already!
Martin1956Icon...21-09-2007 @ 14:09 
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Won't be keeping my training log here for the time being, but if anyone's interested I'm starting a new one on PLUK. Cheers.
TitchIcon...21-09-2007 @ 14:24 
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Originally posted by Martin1956...
Won't be keeping my training log here for the time being, but if anyone's interested I'm starting a new one on PLUK. Cheers.

Dude.Confused
CuddlesIcon...21-09-2007 @ 14:25 
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Shame, this is a log I enjoy reading and really cant be arsed with PLUK. Hope you change your mind mate but if not, hope the training goes well and good luck with it all!
Martin1956Icon...22-09-2007 @ 20:29 
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I've had so many pms and emails since "that" thread that it seems churlish to leave the forum. Interesting who some of the "guests" that visit are, btw.

It has left a bit of a sour taste in the mouth. On reflection, I stand by everything I posted and won't be offering a virtual handshake. This forum should not be about slagging off the sports we all work so hard to gain proficiency in, casting unwarranted aspersions at top lifters (some of whom post here - how do you think it makes them feel?), discouraging new lifters from competing, or accusing clean lifters of naievity.

It should be about helping each other to improve and develop and taking the sport forward.

For the record, I don't believe every BWLA or BDFPA lifter is clean, but I believe that the vast majority are.

There is no way that the authorities in either body connive with lifters to avoid positive tests. That may have been true 15 or more years ago, but not now. (BDFPA was originally started up by clean lifters who were pissed off that this appeared to be happening in the '80s).

If I was an official that was being libelled like this within the powerlifting community I would sue, btw, so I think we all need to be careful that nothing is posted that may cause legal problems for Rob further down the line. What do I mean by that? Well if for example you say that BWLA is conniving with lifters to help them evade/avoid doping tests, that must be directed at the Chief Executive, who would then be entitled to sue both the author and the internet host.

There is also a point at which free speech should go no further. Not everything can be justified on the grounds of free speech. Without causing any offence, I hope, free speech would allow me to start a thread on legalising paedeophilia, but moral decency would prevent me.

I come on forums to help, be helped and have a bit of banter with people with similar interests, not to have virtual fights. I think the guy was bang out of order, my opinion is that he was mischief making from the start, and I hope he has been given some food for thought for his future posts. I'll leave it there.
TitchIcon...23-09-2007 @ 16:16 
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Nice to have you back Martin.

I think that thread demonstrated some of the limitations of the internet, in that I doubt the temperature would have been raised to such a level had the exact same "conversation" occured face-to-face. I disagree with badboy's views on lots of things (just have a look over at MTWink ) but I like the guy, as much as you can like someone through a PC screen. I see your points and certainly tend to side with them more than badboy's, but once the insults came into play things got a bit lost.

Like I said, good to have you back. Please stay on as I want to compete as a novice next year and it's good to have experts around. I also may want to start some more arguments about your views on alcoholism.Wink
nicoIcon...23-09-2007 @ 20:10 
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hi Martin, I didn't read the thread that caused all the agro (the title made me think it might end up a bit controversial and I tend to avoid that sort of stuff on internet) but I'm glad you are staying. I still have some bench questions for you to answer!

Here's a first one: you mentioned that you have quite a good arch. Is this just natural, or did you do anything particular to work on it?

good luck with the push to 200.
Martin1956Icon...23-09-2007 @ 20:36 
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Originally posted by Titch...
Like I said, good to have you back. Please stay on as I want to compete as a novice next year and it's good to have experts around. I also may want to start some more arguments about your views on alcoholism.Wink


Lol! That should get a few brains ticking! Been right out of that since 28th October last year. Sadly, she's still killing herself, slowly and painfully. Horrible to watch, even from a distance.
Martin1956Icon...23-09-2007 @ 20:44 
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Originally posted by nico...
hi Martin, I didn't read the thread that caused all the agro (the title made me think it might end up a bit controversial and I tend to avoid that sort of stuff on internet) but I'm glad you are staying. I still have some bench questions for you to answer!

Here's a first one: you mentioned that you have quite a good arch. Is this just natural, or did you do anything particular to work on it?

good luck with the push to 200.


I started off as a disabled bencher, and under the rules you have to keep your whole back in contact with the bench, so I was a completely flat bencher. Btw, I now believe the disabled rules cause injury, because they don't allow you to use the back muscles effectively on the way dowm and that places too much strain on the front delts and biceps/brachialis.

Briefly, the best way to lower the bar effectively is to squeeze the shoulder blades together and that creates an arch. How big an arch varies from person to person. Stand up straight and have someone touch your upper back with their fingertip, then try and squeeze the finger with your upper back muscles. That's your optimum benching position. It also pushes the chest up and slightly reduces the range of movement (you don't have to take it down so far and you have to press a smaller distance to lockout). Hope that helps.
CuddlesIcon...23-09-2007 @ 21:17 
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Originally posted by Martin1956...
Originally posted by nico...
hi Martin, I didn't read the thread that caused all the agro (the title made me think it might end up a bit controversial and I tend to avoid that sort of stuff on internet) but I'm glad you are staying. I still have some bench questions for you to answer!

Here's a first one: you mentioned that you have quite a good arch. Is this just natural, or did you do anything particular to work on it?

good luck with the push to 200.


I started off as a disabled bencher, and under the rules you have to keep your whole back in contact with the bench, so I was a completely flat bencher. Btw, I now believe the disabled rules cause injury, because they don't allow you to use the back muscles effectively on the way dowm and that places too much strain on the front delts and biceps/brachialis.

Briefly, the best way to lower the bar effectively is to squeeze the shoulder blades together and that creates an arch. How big an arch varies from person to person. Stand up straight and have someone touch your upper back with their fingertip, then try and squeeze the finger with your upper back muscles. That's your optimum benching position. It also pushes the chest up and slightly reduces the range of movement (you don't have to take it down so far and you have to press a smaller distance to lockout). Hope that helps.


I think thats really good advice. Sooo many people focus on getting as much of an arch as possible with the lower back and lose out on a lot from the upper back. I also think it puts the shoulders in a lot safer position.
Martin1956Icon...24-09-2007 @ 22:35 
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Heavy bench at Catts tonight.

Bar for 10
40 for 10
60 for 8
80 for 6
100 for 4
120 for 2
140 for 1, then 46 Katana on, and
160 for 3 off 4.5 inch board
170 for 2 off 2.5 inch board
180 for 1
185 for 1, then shirt off, and
140 for 3
130 for 5
120 for 8
110 for 10 and that was it.

Board work felt smooth and easy, touches felt really hard. The shirt doesn't seem to be helping me much off the chest, where the help should be greatest. The down sets were brutally hard, less than 2 minutes rest between them, on my knees after the 110s. Looking forward to band work on Thursday.

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