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PaulSavage | ... | 17-12-2013 @ 22:16 | |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | Or the death of me! Today been first day I felt more stable on my feet, still sore. (no belt) Deadlift (no leg drive/slow negatives) - 200kg x 4 drop 160kg x 4 drop 120kg x 4 Then like a million sets of pressing on various things - f**ked I missed yesterday so had to just make do today. | ||
PaulSavage | ... | 20-12-2013 @ 15:43 | |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | Just seen u90 northerns is in March so it's possible for me to do it again, though still no actual date announced, plus I've been bulking so don't know what weight I am. Will see what I weigh tomorrow morning and decide from there, probably out of the question is I'm 116-117 or something like that. (no belt/45-90 seconds rest between sets) Leg extensions 4 sets of 10 last set heavy Leg press to +460kg x 7 drop 300 x 5 drop 220kg x 8 Barbell squat to 160kg x 8 drop 120kg x 8 drop 80kg x 8 Karlsen squat to +160kg x 8 Calf raise plate loaded to +120kg x 20 Lower back still shot from deadlifts so tried my best to pre-exhaust. Proper out of breath for most of this, was sweating like f**k. | ||
PaulSavage | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 13:55 | |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | Ok so my weight was only 110.5kg. I really don't understand how it's that low since I've been eating a ton but can only assume it's because I've been so busy in work and only had a couple days off in last 3 weeks. As of this morning am on. I was going to do it differently but since I can maybe do 90's now will just be low dose for cutting, t400 once a week for 8-10 weeks, nothing else with it. I don't expect huge gains from this but is nice tester cycle since is first time. Will diet for first half of cycle an then decide from there if Will do 90's dependant on weight. 1 hour walking (no belt/no straps/45-90 seconds between sets) Lat pulldown to 3 sets 7-9 reps Hs high row +80kg x 8 rp 4 rp 4 Long bar seated row to 3 sets 7-9 reps Smith bent over row to 80kg x 6 drop 60kg x 6 T-bar row 4 plates x 7 drop 3 plates x 4 drop 2 plates x 4 Deadshrugs 60,100,140kg x 5 rounds (one deadlift/three shrugs each one) 45 degree deadlifts 50kg x 8 drop 10kg x 8 Hs shrugs low pick to +200kg x 8 drop +120kg x 8 Plate loaded curl to +60kg x 10 Dumbbell hammer curls 20kg x 6 drop 10kg x 6 Tried my best to feel the muscles working on everything an not just get the weight from a-b. Meant I had to do everything really slow and hold at the end of the movements, which pretty much halved the weights. Gonna keep to the bodybuilding stuff for a bit an see what happens. 1 hour walking | ||
martinb | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 18:12 | |
Grass fed Member 1147, 7710 posts SQ 220, BP 185, DL 272.5677.5 kgs @ 113kgs UnEq | Slow light reps are stupid, completely counter to what you want to do Test builds bodybuilders muscles, not slow reps Train for strongman, hey who knows you might get better at strongman. | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 18:13 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | martinb said:Slow light reps are stupid, completely counter to what you want to do Test builds bodybuilders muscles, not slow reps Train for strongman, hey who knows you might get better at strongman. This. | ||
JamesH | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 19:56 | |
my buttocks hurt Member 337, 2119 posts SQ 300, BP 140, DL 305745.0 kgs @ 125kgs Eq | PaulSavage said: Bulking again now. 90's was too unorganized for me to do as date was never announced and work holidays fully booked for Jan-Feb. Decided to gear up an try get massive instead - worked for ed hall. And again, here's your problem. As the last two posters have said - light bodybuilding doesn't make you strong. For all his flaws etc, Ed got there by lifting very hard and heavy, all the time, and making sure he recovered/gained weight. Heavy squats, presses, rows, and yes I'm sure, curls etc, were in there. But heavy and brutal. Not light. controlled 'feel the burn' stuff. Whether you're taking something or not, the principles are the same. The only difference is that what you're taking wlll enable quicker/better recovery - although your diet will need to match. | ||
shortandmighty | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 20:13 | |
Aiming for a 250 squat by the end of 2012 Member 1989, 3168 posts SQ 240, BP 140, DL 270650.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | PaulSavage said:Just seen u90 northerns is in March so it's possible for me to do it again, though still no actual date announced, plus I've been bulking so don't know what weight I am. Will see what I weigh tomorrow morning and decide from there, And here we go again!! Firstly you need to decide on what your actual goals are and then stick to them. It was only about 2 weeks ago you were going to fill yourself with gear and 'get massive', now you're back to talking about doing90's again. Until you decide what you want to do you're progress is going to be very limited if at all. | ||
ystradboy79 | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 21:44 | |
Chris 'The Magician' Melling Member 1443, 978 posts SQ 270, BP 180, DL 320770.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq | Paul , considering your profession I really do think you should be careful what you post on here regarding "supplement" use - the last thing you need at xmas is the rug squad knocking your door down | ||
PaulSavage | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 22:24 | |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | Post Edited: 22.12.2013 @ 22:25 PM by PaulSavage The rug squad?I think a combination of heavy movements and stretching/feel movements is best for bodybuilding. Today I wanted to get some mind muscle connection as I pretty much have none but you'll find that almost all the top bodybuilders almost never train with weights they can move from a-b, they use as heavy as they can with form that's targeting the muscle/muscles they are training, resting little between sets. This doesn't mean they can't move massive poundages if they needed to, they are extremely strong in gym terms, strongest in the world pound for pound imo. Things happen and change, life doesn't always follow script but as previously stated I could not do u90's as it was stated that the qualifiers would be jan-feb, and with it taking so long to be announced Jan-feb holidays got fully booked in work. I still need a date for march. | ||
unit94 | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 22:44 | |
what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | PaulSavage said:The rug squad? I think a combination of heavy movements and stretching/feel movements is best for bodybuilding. Today I wanted to get some mind muscle connection as I pretty much have none but you'll find that almost all the top bodybuilders almost never train with weights they can move from a-b, they use as heavy as they can with form that's targeting the muscle/muscles they are training, resting little between sets. This doesn't mean they can't move massive poundages if they needed to, they are extremely strong in gym terms, strongest in the world pound for pound imo. Things happen and change, life doesn't always follow script but as previously stated I could not do u90's as it was stated that the qualifiers would be jan-feb, and with it taking so long to be announced Jan-feb holidays got fully booked in work. I still need a date for march. They're not the strongest in the world anything for anything lol | ||
brownbear | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 23:02 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | unit94 said: They're not the strongest in the world anything for anything lol Lol 250lb bodybuilder half squatting 180kg fo reps.... Or 250lb male weightlifter squatting 300kg high bar for reps | ||
WILLSAN | ... | 22-12-2013 @ 23:08 | |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | so the guys who are trying to get bigger and dont care about strength are, pound for pound, stronger than the guys who are trying be as strong as possible at the lightest possible bodyweight? revolutionary thinking! | ||
PaulSavage | ... | 23-12-2013 @ 01:01 | |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | Post Edited: 23.12.2013 @ 01:10 AM by PaulSavage I'm guessing you guys don't follow bodybuilding but yes high level bodybuilders are ridiculously strong in terms of gym strength. There's a bunch of them that can seated press 150lb dumbbells, incline 200lb dumbbells, they certainly squat way more the 180, Jason Huh burying 325kg for 7 easy comes to mind. Remember Evan that did a couple training segments with poundstone? He can seated press 315lbs for multiple sets of 10, where as poundstone has posted videos where he's done 7 or 8 unassisted. Evan is best part of 100lb lighter and in no way the strongest bodybuilder out there. Antoine vaillan can squat and deadlift around 700lbs and bench around 500lbs an he competes at what? 110k? Check out vids of Ben pak's deads and squats etc or guys like flex Lewis or any other 212lb competitor, they shift huge weights, there's vids of 212lb guys rowing 405lbs with strict form+ they do it with a minute or so rest between sets. | ||
walker | ... | 23-12-2013 @ 08:27 | |
Does not need Advice, knows everything. Member 3505, 3510 posts SQ 295, BP 182.5, DL 290767.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | PaulSavage said:I'm guessing you guys don't follow bodybuilding but yes high level bodybuilders are ridiculously strong in terms of gym strength. There's a bunch of them that can seated press 150lb dumbbells, incline 200lb dumbbells, they certainly squat way more the 180, Jason Huh burying 325kg for 7 easy comes to mind. Remember Evan that did a couple training segments with poundstone? He can seated press 315lbs for multiple sets of 10, where as poundstone has posted videos where he's done 7 or 8 unassisted. Evan is best part of 100lb lighter and in no way the strongest bodybuilder out there. Antoine vaillan can squat and deadlift around 700lbs and bench around 500lbs an he competes at what? 110k? Check out vids of Ben pak's deads and squats etc or guys like flex Lewis or any other 212lb competitor, they shift huge weights, there's vids of 212lb guys rowing 405lbs with strict form+ they do it with a minute or so rest between sets. In relation to this and your last post you talk some absolute garbage. Oh and it can probably relate to most of your posts I'm this journal too. | ||
PaulSavage | ... | 23-12-2013 @ 08:36 | |
Member 2775, 6927 posts | Post Edited: 23.12.2013 @ 08:46 AM by PaulSavage walker said: In relation to this and your last post you talk some absolute garbage. Oh and it can probably relate to most of your posts I'm this journal too. Your saying they use fake plates? There's a vid of alexey lesuko going on stage at an event with no wrist wraps, no belt, no sleeves, no chalk etc benching 200kg for 10 reps, and a bunch are paused with several seconds pause on the first rep. Competes at 110kg - this isn't strong? He has this kind of strength with every muscle. | ||
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