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milsy | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 16:15 | |
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | I think your spot on the more I run these high frequency programs the less I seem to get out of them each time I'm back squatting twice a per week now and its first time iv had doms in about a year so must be shock to the system | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 09-05-2012 @ 16:22 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | milsy said:I think your spot on the more I run these high frequency programs the less I seem to get out of them each time I'm back squatting twice a per week now and its first time iv had doms in about a year so must be shock to the system Yeah I am thinking about running it again soon and I can pretty much guarantee I will gain around 25kg from it as its a big change from squatting once or twice a week. So yeah back to the original OP it depends on your current work capacity | ||
Sparrow | ... | 06-06-2013 @ 22:33 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | LessThanLuke said: The pre cycle? As in the warm up two weeks or the base mesocycle? I am talking about the base mesocycle where you do Monday 70% 4 x 9 Wednesday 75% 5 x 7 Friday 80% 7 x 5 Saturday 85% 10 x 3 Then add 10kg in week 2 and another 5kg in week 3. Personally these workouts f**ked me up haha. But I did add 20kg to my squat each time. Did you ever run the whole 13 week thing or just this phase? | ||
IrishMarc | ... | 06-06-2013 @ 22:54 | |
no really Irish Member 1196, 5908 posts SQ 312, BP 230, DL 320862.0 kgs @ 114kgs UnEq | If I did smolov and deadlift together I would fail the programme in week 2 | ||
PlasticScouser | ... | 06-06-2013 @ 23:13 | |
Member 4274, 19 posts SQ 180, BP 130, DL 220530.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq | ran it last year at 95kg BW. clean and raw. only did squat for the majority of the programme. went from a non-griz starting max of 135kg to 160kg after the first test at 4 weeks, during the 2 week speed part i added some bench to keep it ticking over, then back onto the final 4-week stretch, ended with a 180kg. found that this was a spike max, reverting back to 160 after a week or so. same thing happened when i did the 3-week Smolov Jr for bench, hit a max i've never got close to again. my other lifts didnt suffer, despite not training them specifically for weeks best to time it right and use it to peak for a comp. | ||
dr_hazbun | ... | 07-06-2013 @ 09:51 | |
tabbouleh and fattoush salads were very refreshing Member 267, 8548 posts SQ 220, BP 165, DL 250635.0 kgs @ 90kgs Eq | Depends on your recovery ability and, possibly more importantly, how experienced you are. If you have been lifting for years and have say a 250 squat and 300 deadlift, I personally wouldn't do any deadlifting with a high frequency squat routine. If, however, you are running Smolov and trying to take your squat from 150 to 170, then a bit of low volume pulling once a week shouldn't do any harm. | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 07-06-2013 @ 10:00 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Sparrow said: Did you ever run the whole 13 week thing or just this phase? Only ever ran the base meso. | ||
richieallen | ... | 07-06-2013 @ 20:21 | |
Member 1381, 1240 posts SQ 280, BP 165, DL 317.5762.5 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | You could try "forced entry method" by vanilla gorilla..its an amazing system and having constant pb is a nice feeling... | ||
Sparrow | ... | 07-06-2013 @ 22:10 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | LessThanLuke said: Only ever ran the base meso. Cheers. I'm going to try it in a week or two. I know it's going to be brutal, but I'll still be OK doing a bit of weightlifting beforehand won't I? | ||
milsy | ... | 08-06-2013 @ 09:27 | |
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | dr_hazbun said:Depends on your recovery ability and, possibly more importantly, how experienced you are. If you have been lifting for years and have say a 250 squat and 300 deadlift, I personally wouldn't do any deadlifting with a high frequency squat routine. If, however, you are running Smolov and trying to take your squat from 150 to 170, then a bit of low volume pulling once a week shouldn't do any harm. Should see Stephen manuals training building upto worlds he ran smolov and went 300 plus on deads more that a few times a week he videos all his sessions so there on you tube The most insane thing about it he dropped from 108kg to 95kg while doing it | ||
brownbear | ... | 08-06-2013 @ 09:32 | |
Morrisons - rump - 7£ Member 2206, 11578 posts SQ 228, BP 150, DL 260638.0 kgs @ 98kgs UnEq | milsy said: Should see Stephen manuals training building upto worlds he ran smolov and went 300 plus on deads more that a few times a week he videos all his sessions so there on you tube The most insane thing about it he dropped from 108kg to 95kg while doing it Are there any videos of said beast | ||
MarkClegg | ... | 08-06-2013 @ 11:08 | |
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | What is this language ? | ||
MarkClegg | ... | 08-06-2013 @ 11:09 | |
knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 08.06.2013 @ 11:09 AM by MarkClegg Sparrow said:but I'll still be OK doing a bit of weightlifting beforehand won't I? Your going to do some weightlifting before you Squat ????? Stop the madness !! | ||
LessThanLuke | ... | 08-06-2013 @ 11:24 | |
his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Sparrow said: Cheers. I'm going to try it in a week or two. I know it's going to be brutal, but I'll still be OK doing a bit of weightlifting beforehand won't I? Prob help get rid of the aches from previous session mate | ||
Sparrow | ... | 08-06-2013 @ 11:32 | |
always lookIng for the extra UT2 work. Member 9, 18279 posts SQ 210, BP 167.5, DL 260637.5 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | MarkClegg said: Your going to do some weightlifting before you Squat ????? Stop the madness !! Have you seen the squat routine?? I don't think I'll be able to walk for 3 weeks, never mind lift weights! | ||