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JC | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:24 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Simon_T said:Olympics - same day weigh in. Powerlifting - same day weigh in. Both mainly anaerobic. MMA - day before weigh in Boxing - day before weigh in. Both mainly aerobic. Strongman, in my opinion should be same day weigh in, it's not a mainly aerobic sport, the longest you'll work for is normally 75s then you'll have a good rest. If you struggle to make the weight maybe you shouldn't be in that weight category. The argument that the worlds do it so should we is quite weak, again my opinion, for a start the worlds are hit and miss wether they go ahead or not and what difference does it make the strongest 105 will win Britains/UK's and he'd have plenty of chance to bulk up in prep for a day before weigh in. The Welsh and Scottish are same day, it's only the English that have changed the system and this obviously suits some people more than others. then when the Welsh and Scottish travel to Britains/UK's they've got to go a day earlier for the day before weigh otherwise they're at a dis-advantage from the start. The argument is pretty pointless, as individuals will always argue to whichever situation suits them best Thats been successfully highlighted in this thread, where heavy 105s say its great, light 105s say it isn't | ||
Joni | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:24 | |
left the country satisfied Member 10, 19241 posts SQ 240, BP 150, DL 270660.0 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq | Simon_T said:Olympics - same day weigh in. Powerlifting - same day weigh in. the feds which are more comparable to strongman in powerlifting have a day before weigh in. And i would compare strongman to MMA any day over single lift comps. there is no black & white right or wrong answer in this one - anyone who cant even see the other side of the argument is a bit simplistic IMO. So it boils down to practicalities largely, and the international standard. Plus it adds an element to the competitions, i like that local comps still will have the same day weigh ins, and even huge guys like Ben France can make it if he so wishes. | ||
hixxy1985 | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:28 | |
www.grahamhicks.co.uk Member 994, 9594 posts SQ 330, BP 250, DL 405985.0 kgs @ 135kgs UnEq | Joni said: and even huge guys like Ben France can make it if he so wishes. hint hint wink wink lmao nice one ! | ||
sexymikehowarth | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:29 | |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | Lol Joni It's just a term "under 105 strongman" Which is cool, and a good laugh... Even if you get guys that are alot heavier than others competing under the same tag... Which a weight catagory in itself implies isn't the case | ||
sexymikehowarth | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:33 | |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | JC said: The argument is pretty pointless, as individuals will always argue to whichever situation suits them best Thats been successfully highlighted in this thread, where heavy 105s say its great, light 105s say it isn't I think the use of the term "heavy 105" and "light 105" which I think is an impossibility just goes to demonstrate that we are all of a similar opinion The set up we have is solid and also allows for the best show to be put on with the most impressive fears of strength The spectators aren't really fussed about bodyweights it has to be said | ||
Rick | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:39 | |
I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Fight sports have earlier weighin times to try to prevent brain damage - the cushioning between brain and skull is badly affected by dehydration. Not an issue for strongman. I wouldn't care to speculate why untested powerlifting feds have early weighs, except that it seems of a piece with double-ply briefs, longer DL bars, etc - anything to get the numbers up. In Alan's day if you were weightlifting and broke a record you were weighed afterwards too to check you were actually in the class. I understand why they stopped it, but I like the concept. | ||
JC | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:39 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | sexymikehowarth said: I think the use of the term "heavy 105" and "light 105" which I think is an impossibility just goes to demonstrate that we are all of a similar opinion The set up we have is solid and also allows for the best show to be put on with the most impressive fears of strength The spectators aren't really fussed about bodyweights it has to be said One thing I do think is wrong, is the non standardisations across, English, Welsh & Scottish comps Nothing you can do about that with different promoters and opinions though I suppose | ||
sexymikehowarth | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:43 | |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | Rick said:Fight sports have earlier weighin times to try to prevent brain damage - the cushioning between brain and skull is badly affected by dehydration. Not an issue for strongman. I wouldn't care to speculate why untested powerlifting feds have early weighs, except that it seems of a piece with double-ply briefs, longer DL bars, etc - anything to get the numbers up. In Alan's day if you were weightlifting and broke a record you were weighed afterwards too to check you were actually in the class. I understand why they stopped it, but I like the concept. Like Alot Excellent post | ||
sexymikehowarth | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:45 | |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | JC said: One thing I do think is wrong, is the non standardisations across, English, Welsh & Scottish comps Nothing you can do about that with different promoters and opinions though I suppose Good point If I was stronger and could do more open comps I would do as its still the same game | ||
PeteHodgson | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:46 | |
Has little understanding of the sugden Member 677, 11338 posts SQ 165, BP 125, DL 220510.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | Why do we limit this to 24 hour weigh ins. How about 2 week, or 1 month weigh ins. We could see 130kg 105s! Awesome! The weight margin between 105's and opens is potentially up to 50+ kilos which is why I think 120kgs would probably have been a better category than 105. At least with a 24 hour weigh in it bridges this gap slightly so that a heavier (stronger) 105 has a running start in the opens if he moves up. (potentially being closer to 120 at times anyway) | ||
Ben_F | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:46 | |
vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350855.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | It was introduced to give our guy(s) the best shot at international success. I have asked Jyrki of United Strongmen to confirm if day before weigh-ins will be a feature of the internationals this year. If the rules are the same for everyone, whichever way round it is, I can't see a problem. | ||
Ben_F | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:47 | |
vegetarian with a big deadlift - who would have thought... Member 340, 13300 posts SQ 315, BP 190, DL 350855.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | PeteHodgson said:Why do we limit this to 24 hour weigh ins. How about 2 week, or 1 month weigh ins. We could see 130kg 105s! Awesome! The weight margin between 105's and opens is potentially up to 50+ kilos which is why I think 120kgs would probably have been a better category than 105. At least with a 24 hour weigh in it bridges this gap slightly so that a heavier (stronger) 105 has a running start in the opens if he moves up. (potentially being closer to 120 at times anyway) 120kg class anyone? | ||
JC | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:48 | |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Ben_F said: 120kg class anyone? lol | ||
thosebananas | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:49 | |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Ben_F said: 120kg class anyone? i could even cut to that within a week. Silly. | ||
sexymikehowarth | ... | 21-02-2012 @ 11:51 | |
Full mask or nasal and chin strap? Member 3254, 2485 posts | Ben_F said:It was introduced to give our guy(s) the best shot at international success. I have asked Jyrki of United Strongmen to confirm if day before weigh-ins will be a feature of the internationals this year. If the rules are the same for everyone, whichever way round it is, I can't see a problem. I agree with the worlds under 105 day before you simply cannot have it any other way on the road to it I'm chuffed to have a shot this year | ||