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JCIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:24 
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Simon_T said:Olympics - same day weigh in.
Powerlifting - same day weigh in.

Both mainly anaerobic.

MMA - day before weigh in
Boxing - day before weigh in.

Both mainly aerobic.

Strongman, in my opinion should be same day weigh in, it's not a mainly aerobic sport, the longest you'll work for is normally 75s then you'll have a good rest. If you struggle to make the weight maybe you shouldn't be in that weight category.
The argument that the worlds do it so should we is quite weak, again my opinion, for a start the worlds are hit and miss wether they go ahead or not and what difference does it make the strongest 105 will win Britains/UK's and he'd have plenty of chance to bulk up in prep for a day before weigh in.
The Welsh and Scottish are same day, it's only the English that have changed the system and this obviously suits some people more than others. then when the Welsh and Scottish travel to Britains/UK's they've got to go a day earlier for the day before weigh otherwise they're at a dis-advantage from the start.


The argument is pretty pointless, as individuals will always argue to whichever situation suits them best

Thats been successfully highlighted in this thread, where heavy 105s say its great, light 105s say it isn't
JoniIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:24 
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Simon_T said:Olympics - same day weigh in.
Powerlifting - same day weigh in.


the feds which are more comparable to strongman in powerlifting have a day before weigh in. And i would compare strongman to MMA any day over single lift comps.

there is no black & white right or wrong answer in this one - anyone who cant even see the other side of the argument is a bit simplistic IMO.

So it boils down to practicalities largely, and the international standard.

Plus it adds an element to the competitions, i like that Happy

local comps still will have the same day weigh ins, and even huge guys like Ben France can make it if he so wishes.
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Joni said:
and even huge guys like Ben France can make it if he so wishes.


hint hint wink wink lmao
nice one !
sexymikehowarthIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:29 
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Lol Joni

It's just a term "under 105 strongman"

Which is cool, and a good laugh... Even if you get guys that are alot heavier than others competing under the same tag... Which a weight catagory in itself implies isn't the case
sexymikehowarthIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:33 
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JC said:
The argument is pretty pointless, as individuals will always argue to whichever situation suits them best
Thats been successfully highlighted in this thread, where heavy 105s say its great, light 105s say it isn't


I think the use of the term "heavy 105" and "light 105" which I think is an impossibility just goes to demonstrate that we are all of a similar opinion

The set up we have is solid and also allows for the best show to be put on with the most impressive fears of strength

The spectators aren't really fussed about bodyweights it has to be said
RickIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:39 
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Fight sports have earlier weighin times to try to prevent brain damage - the cushioning between brain and skull is badly affected by dehydration. Not an issue for strongman.

I wouldn't care to speculate why untested powerlifting feds have early weighs, except that it seems of a piece with double-ply briefs, longer DL bars, etc - anything to get the numbers up.

In Alan's day if you were weightlifting and broke a record you were weighed afterwards too to check you were actually in the class. I understand why they stopped it, but I like the concept.
JCIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:39 
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sexymikehowarth said:
I think the use of the term "heavy 105" and "light 105" which I think is an impossibility just goes to demonstrate that we are all of a similar opinion
The set up we have is solid and also allows for the best show to be put on with the most impressive fears of strength
The spectators aren't really fussed about bodyweights it has to be said


One thing I do think is wrong, is the non standardisations across, English, Welsh & Scottish comps

Nothing you can do about that with different promoters and opinions though I suppose
sexymikehowarthIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:43 
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Rick said:Fight sports have earlier weighin times to try to prevent brain damage - the cushioning between brain and skull is badly affected by dehydration. Not an issue for strongman.

I wouldn't care to speculate why untested powerlifting feds have early weighs, except that it seems of a piece with double-ply briefs, longer DL bars, etc - anything to get the numbers up.

In Alan's day if you were weightlifting and broke a record you were weighed afterwards too to check you were actually in the class. I understand why they stopped it, but I like the concept.


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sexymikehowarthIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:45 
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JC said:
One thing I do think is wrong, is the non standardisations across, English, Welsh & Scottish comps
Nothing you can do about that with different promoters and opinions though I suppose


Good point

If I was stronger and could do more open comps I would do as its still the same game
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Why do we limit this to 24 hour weigh ins. How about 2 week, or 1 month weigh ins. We could see 130kg 105s! Awesome!
The weight margin between 105's and opens is potentially up to 50+ kilos which is why I think 120kgs would probably have been a better category than 105. At least with a 24 hour weigh in it bridges this gap slightly so that a heavier (stronger) 105 has a running start in the opens if he moves up. (potentially being closer to 120 at times anyway)
Ben_FIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:46 
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It was introduced to give our guy(s) the best shot at international success. I have asked Jyrki of United Strongmen to confirm if day before weigh-ins will be a feature of the internationals this year. If the rules are the same for everyone, whichever way round it is, I can't see a problem.
Ben_FIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:47 
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PeteHodgson said:Why do we limit this to 24 hour weigh ins. How about 2 week, or 1 month weigh ins. We could see 130kg 105s! Awesome!
The weight margin between 105's and opens is potentially up to 50+ kilos which is why I think 120kgs would probably have been a better category than 105. At least with a 24 hour weigh in it bridges this gap slightly so that a heavier (stronger) 105 has a running start in the opens if he moves up. (potentially being closer to 120 at times anyway)


120kg class anyone? Wink
JCIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:48 
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Ben_F said:
120kg class anyone? Wink


lol Wink
thosebananasIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:49 
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Ben_F said:
120kg class anyone? Wink


i could even cut to that within a week. Silly.
sexymikehowarthIcon...21-02-2012 @ 11:51 
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Ben_F said:It was introduced to give our guy(s) the best shot at international success. I have asked Jyrki of United Strongmen to confirm if day before weigh-ins will be a feature of the internationals this year. If the rules are the same for everyone, whichever way round it is, I can't see a problem.


I agree with the worlds under 105 day before you simply cannot have it any other way on the road to it

I'm chuffed to have a shot this year Grin

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