Slow reps for fast gains
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| BodytorqueGym |  | Slow reps for fast gains | 29-03-2013 @ 18:49 |
Member 4286, 35 posts | Paul Marsland explains all! http://www.clickmma.co.uk/slow-repetitions-for-fast-gains/ | ||
| bigbadbish | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 18:57 |
 A World class farmer Member 576, 3429 posts SQ 350, BP 200, DL 400950.0 kgs @ 136kgs UnEq | No thanks. May work for someone out there though... | ||
| unit94 | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 19:02 |
 what is everyone's fran time? Member 3986, 10449 posts SQ 340, BP 200, DL 400940.0 kgs @ 129kgs Eq | Post Edited: 29.03.2013 @ 19:03 PM by unit94 It says the goal of a strength training programme is to cause fatigue to a muscle. Isn't that the aim of a bodybuilding programme to produce maximum fatigue. To me a strength training programme would aim to allow you to perform alot of mechanical work whilst trying to delay the onset of fatigue whereas performing lifts with very slow tempos would maximise fatigue whilst minimising actual work done. Lifting purposefully slowly wouldn't train someone to rapidly produce force either which is surely what athletes are aiming to do, especially an mma fighter like the article seems to be aimed at. Just my opinion | ||
| milsy | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 19:12 |
 Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq | BodytorqueGym said:Paul Marsland explains all! http://www.clickmma.co.uk/slow-repetitions-for-fast-gains/[/qu... What's his stats? Sport ? Bw? Lifts ? Age? I know its abit geeky but when ever I read a training article I like to learn about the person writing the artilce | ||
| VanillaGorilla | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 19:15 |
 the UK's leading expert in bio mechanics Member 1973, 7379 posts | Pass. | ||
| VinnyJones | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 21:25 |
 Who said it's hardcore? Member 3896, 847 posts SQ 265, BP 150, DL 320735.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq | Always thought strength training was programmed to produce the most explosive force to the weight. Who cares how the muscle feels? | ||
| josh_ains | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 21:33 |
 Member 786, 2077 posts SQ 262, BP 155, DL 300717.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 29.03.2013 @ 21:35 PM by josh_ains slow reps = slow progress/regress it should be named | ||
| josh_ains | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 21:33 |
Member 786, 2077 posts SQ 262, BP 155, DL 300717.0 kgs @ 122kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 29.03.2013 @ 21:34 PM by josh_ains repost | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 21:43 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22063 posts | I don't think it's such a bad idea personally. | ||
| AMH_Power | | ... | 29-03-2013 @ 22:36 |
we ride at dawn Member 4363, 1442 posts SQ 310, BP 250, DL 320880.0 kgs @ 104kgs UnEq | BodytorqueGym said:Paul Marsland explains all! http://www.clickmma.co.uk/slow-repetitions-for-fast-gains/[/qu... This does not take into account motor neural abilities. It maybe a good method to gain mass, but not to increase force production. The conservation of momentum (flywheel effect) is paramount in achieving the highest force (mass x acceleration). There maybe no scientific evidence that lifting fast is best, but incorporating speed work into my bench saw it rocket after a year of halted progression doing 'slow reps' (and I'd like to think I'm not the only one) If this was true, sprinters would jog everyday, oly lifters would do step ups instead of box jumps, and boxers would massage the heavy bag instead of punching it. | ||
| VinnyJones | | ... | 30-03-2013 @ 22:13 |
Who said it's hardcore? Member 3896, 847 posts SQ 265, BP 150, DL 320735.0 kgs @ 128kgs UnEq | Nice analogy there AMH. Speed work (I call it Dynamic) can produce incredible strength gains for some people. | ||
| GATES | | ... | 31-03-2013 @ 07:45 |
 What's your thoughts on one legged drills? Member 1725, 4343 posts SQ 250, BP 125, DL 272.5647.5 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq | F=MA enough said | ||
| glen_danbury | | ... | 31-03-2013 @ 10:08 |
 Member 735, 1193 posts SQ 220, BP 135, DL 235590.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | nonsense if your using weights which allows you to perform a ten seconds up and down cadence it will be under 85% of 1RM if your doing more than one rep. if this is the case the effect of 'muscle wisdom' will come in where your body alternates firing patterns to avoid fatigue of fibers. considering strength is a skill (combination of intra and intermuscular coordination) you would want to teach your muscles to fire and work together not learn how to work segmented avoiding fatigue. Possibly an ok routine for muscle gain as the greater effect will be energy systems rather than neurological effects. the only time all the fibers work together vin concert with each other is either at the point of fatigue or during an explosive movement | ||
| JackRevans | | ... | 31-03-2013 @ 11:55 |
 'There was also a sausage in my mouth.' Member 2477, 16481 posts SQ 190, BP 130, DL 235555.0 kgs @ 83kgs UnEq | unit94 said:It says the goal of a strength training programme is to cause fatigue to a muscle. Isn't that the aim of a bodybuilding programme to produce maximum fatigue. To me a strength training programme would aim to allow you to perform alot of mechanical work whilst trying to delay the onset of fatigue whereas performing lifts with very slow tempos would maximise fatigue whilst minimising actual work done. Lifting purposefully slowly wouldn't train someone to rapidly produce force either which is surely what athletes are aiming to do, especially an mma fighter like the article seems to be aimed at. Just my opinion This guy... | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 31-03-2013 @ 12:15 |
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22063 posts | Remember that Sugden "wisdom" said that strength couldn't be maintained with 1 rep sessions. Myth... BUSTED!  Keep an open mind. What do people think of exercises like the 'halting dead lift'? | ||