Pros and cons of multi category strongman comps
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| WILLSAN |  | Pros and cons of multi category strongman comps | 07-05-2014 @ 13:54 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | What are the pros/cons of multi category strongman comps? Is it better to run a single class for each comp or can a limited number work well? If so, how many classes is too many? | ||
| chaos | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 13:56 |
 An amazing human being Member 2047, 17156 posts SQ 262.5, BP 170, DL 300732.5 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 07.05.2014 @ 13:57 PM by chaos Ben's Salt Ayre Classic always worked very well, had number of classes all competing at same time and comp always ran smoothly and timely! So from that point of view I'm all for them.The real hard work I suppose was in the scoring but the patented Sanderson Scoring system made light work of it! (even when that c**t Bryce was in charge of scoring) | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 14:04 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | SA is a slightly different format with all the classes going in against each other. so do you think thats why it works well? or that multi class comps are generally a good thing? | ||
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| JC | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 14:08 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 07.05.2014 @ 14:09 PM by JC The success of multi cat comps depends on a number of factors, the two most important being:1) number of participants in each cat 2) number of events that are head-head If (1) is high then you must have (2) as the majority of events If (1) is low (5-6) you can afford to have (2) as only a few If you have high or moderate (1) and f**k all (2) then athletes, loaders and spectators are in for a long as hell, boring day | ||
| bryce | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 14:34 |
 Juice loose aboot this hoose Member 1401, 3962 posts SQ 160, BP 107.5, DL 210477.5 kgs @ 88kgs UnEq | SA classic works well but its not really multi category. Helped at Yorkshire novice a couple of years ago and it had U90/105/opens and was a right mess really. We had enough space to have all the events set up and each class moved around them, pretty terrible for the spectators to be honest. | ||
| Funky_monkey | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 14:41 |
 403 forbidden message Member 160, 5121 posts SQ 190, BP 137.5, DL 225552.5 kgs @ 86kgs UnEq | I'd go for u90 or u105s and opens. Keep things simple. I would be put off entering an open class competition, especially at 82kg bw. 2 or 3 is fine, anything more is silly. | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 14:52 |
Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | bryce said:Helped at Yorkshire novice a couple of years ago and it had U90/105/opens and was a right mess really. We had enough space to have all the events set up and each class moved around them, pretty terrible for the spectators to be honest. I think when you start moving away from a 'show' and towards a production line of people lifting weights things are definately going wrong. after a couple of experiences when I first started competing of comps that dragged on forever I have generally steered clear of multi category comps or comps that have a large amount of competitors so I cant speak with a huge amount of experience. As a promoter though, I think id find it tough to run a show to the standard id want with say 3 or more categorys of 20 competitors. | ||
| blinki | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 14:56 |
Member 5256, 54 posts | Post Edited: 07.05.2014 @ 14:58 PM by blinki I think it's mainly a trade off between spectators being able to follow it and opportunities for competitors. I watched a comp with 7 categories. It allowed a wider of variety of guys to compete and if it wasn't that broad there wouldn't have just been other comps because of limited time and resources. As someone who's U80 and not very good that's great to see because there's not much else I could enter. It was well run (a lot due to capping numbers which made it a bit uncompetitive with most categories having 3 guys) but it's too much information to keep a sense of how well everyone is doing. You'd give yourself a headache trying to keep track of it as a comp so I watched it as more of a demonstration. 7 is a bit extreme but 1 category can be tricky to follow without the score card in front of you so even 2 can be difficult, especially if you want to draw in more casual fans who are less familiar with the scoring. | ||
| hilliker | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 18:54 |
Member 1025, 1032 posts | First comp I did was London's at some school in East London. There were 3 catergories and it took about 7 hours to get through it and we only did 5 events. Anyone who came to watch had left by the 3rd event because they were so bored and fed up. From that day on I realised multi category comps were s**t. Comps should run nice and quick so as not only the crowd stay interested but the competitors too. I heard stories that at the ESM under 105kg a few years back in reading the comp went on so long and was so poorly run that some competitors feigned injury so they could leave, and that is a final. Nice short and well presented comps are the way forward. | ||
| LessThanLuke | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 18:56 |
 his poor male ego must be crushed Member 883, 6251 posts SQ 290, BP 180, DL 420890.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | hilliker said:First comp I did was London's at some school in East London. There were 3 catergories and it took about 7 hours to get through it and we only did 5 events. Anyone who came to watch had left by the 3rd event because they were so bored and fed up. From that day on I realised multi category comps were s**t. Comps should run nice and quick so as not only the crowd stay interested but the competitors too. I heard stories that at the ESM under 105kg a few years back in reading the comp went on so long and was so poorly run that some competitors feigned injury so they could leave, and that is a final. Nice short and well presented comps are the way forward. This. This is why the Salt Ayre comps are so good. | ||
| macroth | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 19:58 |
 no longer the Swiss Deadlift record holder Member 3517, 3368 posts SQ 182.5, BP 122.5, DL 255560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq | We currently have only 3 comps/year in Switzerland. They all run 6 categories: Open men Open women Novice women Novice men u90 Novice men u105 Novice men 105+ (same events as u105, separate ranking) In April, there were 28 athletes in total, and all events are run two categories at a time, so it doesn't make for an overly long competition. | ||
| MarkClegg | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 20:05 |
 knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | hilliker said:I heard stories that at the ESM under 105kg a few years back in reading the comp went on so long and was so poorly run that some competitors feigned injury so they could leave, and that is a final. Nice short and well presented comps are the way forward. Them stories are true .. We were kicked out of the venue and had to do stones in the carpark when it was dark . The organiser also said "The score sheet blew away in the wind" My missus and a few mates came watching and still talk about it to this day as the most boring day of their lives !!! | ||
| Pikefingers | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 20:35 |
Squatting isn't doing my back any good. Member 5108, 869 posts SQ 170, BP 125, DL 210505.0 kgs @ 93kgs UnEq | PRO: They promote the sport of strongman by allowing more athletes to get involved by offering them a level platform to compete on. CON: They cause people to post s**t threads (not this one) on Sugden. | ||
| hilliker | | ... | 07-05-2014 @ 21:06 |
Member 1025, 1032 posts | Pikefingers said:PRO: They promote the sport of strongman by allowing more athletes to get involved by offering them a level platform to compete on. CON: They cause people to post s**t threads (not this one) on Sugden. They promote the sport and then kill it in one afternoon | ||