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| 93hopkinsonr |  | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 10:39 |
 Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4636 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | What would be your limits without peds if you had to guess? | ||
| drex50 |  | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 10:45 |
 It's a moonface era now. Member 5901, 956 posts | i like your honesty about drugs but what youre doing is very very dangerous if mistime carbs i know a few guys who finished in hospital after slin shots and got hypoglecimia because they didnt eat carbs or not enough carbs its true high carb diet over 6000-7000 kcal has a high risk of making u diabetic but 50 ius a day!? somethin went wrong, buddy and at the end, even though i dont want to speculate, just personal thoughts i think some pros are diabetic, even some who doesnt admit it | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 10:50 |
 more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | 93hopkinsonr said:What would be your limits without peds if you had to guess? Hard to say. I can do 300/220/300 on a cruise dose of test. That is say 250mg every 10 days. That's roughly what a healthy 18 year old male makes naturally. | ||
| The_Lone_Wolf | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 10:56 |
 I eat a lot of meat Member 5124, 2997 posts SQ 245, BP 130, DL 275650.0 kgs @ 105kgs UnEq | Enjoyable read this journal. | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 10:56 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | drex50 said:i like your honesty about drugs but what youre doing is very very dangerous if mistime carbs i know a few guys who finished in hospital after slin shots and got hypoglecimia because they didnt eat carbs or not enough carbs its true high carb diet over 6000-7000 kcal has a high risk of making u diabetic but 50 ius a day!? somethin went wrong, buddy and at the end, even though i dont want to speculate, just personal thoughts i think some pros are diabetic, even some who doesnt admit it Oh yeah, for sure. I consume 1000-1500g carbs per day. Slow and fast ones. Slow carbs at bedtime to be safe. There are always carbs in me. I don't touch slin otherwise and carry sugary drinks on me aswell (just incase). You are right with more than 15iu daily giving you puffy face and a thin film of water over your muscle. Agreed. Lots of bodybuilders are diabetic. That's due to HGH ruining insulin sensitivity though, pure type 2 from abusing HGH without insulin. HGH and no slin is dangerous, any coach recommending that needs to go back to school. | ||
| drex50 | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 11:01 |
It's a moonface era now. Member 5901, 956 posts | Just be careful and take advice only from qualified people good luck | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 11:03 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | drex50 said:Just be careful and take advice only from qualified people good luck Thanks bro. Will stop if I get any health scare.1000kg raw total isn't worth my health. | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 11:09 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | The_Lone_Wolf said:Enjoyable read this journal. Glad you like it! | ||
| Paul_D | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 15:05 |
 Hey mate, my name is Paul Dudley Member 632, 3628 posts SQ 200, BP 155, DL 282.5637.5 kgs @ 77kgs UnEq | Still a strong unit I see. Hope you're staying safe mate. | ||
| BaconWarrior | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 15:34 |
**INSERT BACON TAGLINE** Member 3502, 1009 posts SQ 240, BP 157.5, DL 275672.5 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq | FAT_SAM said: Haha thanks mate. I am not the best lifter in the UK just yet but definitely getting up there, I hope people enjoy reading it and seeing info on the supplements etc that are used to get to a high level in powerlifting. I think it's better that way than to try to make out I bench in the mid 500s from just 'hard training'. And of course anyone who doesn't agree with peds doesn't have to read. The honesty is very enjoyable! It also adds something more to this as most journals (mine included at times) just end up being a list of numbers which will bore even the most keen training enthusiast to tears imo. Definitely will be following this journal! | ||
| AdamT | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 15:50 |
AKA the great reset Member 4056, 5207 posts | FAT_SAM said:5-10iu with each meal depending on carb content etc. 10-15iu with weight gainer post workout. It allows me to hold 150kg bodyweight. Without insulin I can't get over 130kg. Even if I eat more without it I just s**t more and don't gain. And obviously I am a lot stronger at 150kg than 130kg. 360kg squat 250kg bench 350kg deadlift are the goals for this year in competition. Insulin allows more water retention which is beneficial for strength. Brian Shaw puffy face for life ! Respect the honesty man. | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 22:47 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | Paul_D said:Still a strong unit I see. Hope you're staying safe mate. Thanks mate. Back to where I was pre knee surgery and more but I still haven't bested my best bench from 2013. Health wise I'm all good. BP, heart rate etc normalize when you have been heavy for a while (in my experience at least). | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 22:51 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | BaconWarrior said: The honesty is very enjoyable! It also adds something more to this as most journals (mine included at times) just end up being a list of numbers which will bore even the most keen training enthusiast to tears imo. Definitely will be following this journal! Thanks buddy will keep it honest and informative. | ||
| FAT_SAM | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 22:55 |
more like 'FAT TROLL' Member 984, 6331 posts SQ 420, BP 260, DL 3351015.0 kgs @ 165kgs UnEq | AdamT said: Respect the honesty man. Thanks man! My face is blown lol | ||
| cowie | | ... | 24-03-2016 @ 22:56 |
 Member 3740, 1584 posts | Previous forum banter aside at what age did you decide to start using and how far do you think you could have gone natty? | ||
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