Drug Tested Strongman Comp 9th August Cheshunt
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| thosebananas |  | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 11:52 |
 Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | I agree with matt. So what if it wasnt heavy? isnt strongman a combination of strength/speed/endurance etc etc so everyone has events that suit their strengths. Fair enough some the events were more endurance based (deadlift), but it was the same for everyone and the best men won on the day. | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 11:52 |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Pint said: Hmmmm...Some thoughts I dont know I agree that this didnt draw 'the best' natural lifters. We all knew it was light and it turned from a battle of pure strength, into a battle of stamina and consistency. Everyone was welcome to enter and even with the light - 180kg deadlift- I dont know how many of you guys could pull over 20 reps on an axle after already completing three events!! We all did this to promote the natural strongman movement. If we had stronger guys then the log would have gone up to 120-130 rather than 105-110. The principal is that it would be what you make it. I know that I wouldnt keep up with lads like Wayne and Munya on some of the events - but I wouldnt let them walk over me either... The harder the other people try - the harder you try yourself. I dont like the insinuation that this was 'beneath' anyone when some of the lads who were there (Scott, Ben, Jack) were clearly so awesome that they would place highly regardless of who else had entered. I hope that this runs again next year and I for one will be proud to do my best again then, regardless of who else enters. So dont knock it lads - get behind it....It'll be better and heavier next time and we will all be a year stronger, fitter and more experienced!!! cheers for the awesome comment. lol.. defo dont deserve that. Next year thou...  | ||
| Pint | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 12:06 |
 Member 424, 532 posts SQ 190, BP 145, DL 220555.0 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | too modest mate- if those reps hadnt been disallowed on the deadlift, and if you didnt let your youthful exuberance get you carried away on the log, you would have taken a medal at least!!! Now stop writing on here and send out those DVD's!!  | ||
| Thing | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 12:18 |
 a large fingered spastic that demolishes plant Member 89, 31706 posts SQ 260, BP 220, DL 290770.0 kgs @ 142kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 12.08.2009 @ 12:18 PM by Thing Pete said: JC said: Just as an aside, I think if you want the BEST drug free lifters in the country there next year, it has to be a lot heavier Firstly, as Jamie said, it started as a comp between members of a natural BB website and then gained more momentum that expected. Secondly, I would make it heavier too but as Glen has said he's planning changes for next year anyway. Thirdly, just as non tested strongman shows don't necessarily attract the best non tested powerlifters, next year's tested strongman show won't necessarily attract lots of tested powerlifters. Maybe I'm wrong. Anyway, I believe some qualifiers are planned for next year so they may stay fairly light with a bit of a heavier final. What weights would you like to see JC? Or anyone else for that matter. if i were fit i would of loved to have done this comp but it was to light. if its for open drug free guys like myself then deadlift of some form around the 280 mark log for reps around the 120 130 mark farmers around the 130 to 155 mark yoke 350 to 400 mark stones up to 160 | ||
| JC | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 12:34 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Pint - without being arsey, I know for a FACT it did not attract the best drug free lifters With all due respect to those who competed, Phil Boyham and Johnny Mills would have run away with that - if not it would only have been as it was too light and about conditioning, rather than strenght When I said it was too light, it was because of people like Neil. It was an open weigh category. A 180 DL is far too light for a 120KG+ man drug free or not As some have said, something along the lines of u105 weight would be essentail is they are going to keep this an open weight comp Just my opinion. Dont all get arsey with me, cuase I cant do it, so couldn't care less really lol | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 13:36 |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Pint said: too modest mate- if those reps hadnt been disallowed on the deadlift, and if you didnt let your youthful exuberance get you carried away on the log, you would have taken a medal at least!!! Now stop writing on here and send out those DVD's!! DVDs were all sent out last night... should be with you tomorrow or friday at the absolute latest. Im putting that dealift behind me, still raging about it thou. And i dont regret the log. I didnt come down from Glasgow to play it safe... All for the glory. If it had of went up, it would have been a whole different story. | ||
| glen_danbury | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 16:24 |
 Member 735, 1193 posts SQ 220, BP 135, DL 235590.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq | yes some of the events where on the safe/light side so it did become somewhat muscular endurance - the reason being as an inaugral event our intention was to allow as many people as possible to enter rather than only a handfull of the elite next year there will be an under 100kg and over 100kg and the second class will have alot heavier implements | ||
| Pint | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 16:31 |
Member 424, 532 posts SQ 190, BP 145, DL 220555.0 kgs @ 103kgs UnEq | LOL. Not being Arsey JC.  Just feeling proud of the achievement and a bit protective . I read Neils log on SDF every week, and have been admiring Neils work since I started strongman and often comment suppoort on his training log. I am always a bit in awe of naturals who can do such awesome stuff.My training partner is Munya Chigwada (Natural Open Competitor) - I watched him beat Paul 'cuddles' carter in the tire flip (500+kg  ) in the Kents strongest man open a few weeks ago....I am astounded by the incredible feats of the better natural strongmen.I hope that they all get involved in this movement to promote natural strongman. They are an inspiration to people like me who are just starting out. But, whatever the weights, the invitation to battle was open and the lads who stepped up were fantastic and I have nothing but respect for them and the effort that they showed. Next year we might have some classes and qualifiers. I dont know that I will be giving guys like Neil a run for their money on a 400kg yoke or a 280 deadlift for reps...but I know that I would always give it 100% even if I dont get a single rep---there is no shame losing to athletes of that standard....but there is tremendous pride in standing up next to them and doing your best. Its ok to lose against a better natural. It is harder to accept being beaten by someone who has the edge through steroids. | ||
| Pete | | To Pint(Matt) and JC | 12-08-2009 @ 20:15 |
 has spent time in a modern educational setting Member 47, 1221 posts | Post Edited: 12.08.2009 @ 20:17 PM by Pete I don't normally get in the middle of web based arguments but here we go anyway. I'm going to sit on the fence anyway so I hope I don't get too many splinters in my arse. I genuinely agree with some of Matt's points and some of JC's points. I've competed against both of you and (in the nicest possible way) you're both stubborn and competitive blokes. You're both nice guys too. I agree that Phil and Jonny would have stood an excellent chance of winning but, at the same time, over the five events, the guy that won (Jack) would not have been a pushover. To put it into context, without disrespecting Ben, Jack won pretty comfortably(before the last event - I think) and Ben is no "easybeat" - 290kg DL etc. There were other strong guys there too. Phil Learney, for example, deadlifts 277.5kg. I presume that there were also others with deadlifts in the high 200s. Without disrespecting anyone there, the comp was probably missing some of the bigger natural log pressers but Will obviously had to withdraw for personal reasons. As had been discussed, this comp wouldn't have suited some of the huge natural guys like Neil because he would have found it too light to play to his strengths. At the same time, as everyone knows, it was the first year of the comp and there has to be some starting point. I'm sure that it will be heavier next year. At a guess, it will still probably be a bit light for Neil's tastes but Rome wasn't built in a day. It'll probably take a few years to build to the point where all of the absolutely beastly natural guys are happy. I've got plenty more to say but you're probably all asleep by now. | ||
| MarkClegg | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 20:28 |
 knock knock !! who's there ?? OLD SCHOOL SUGDEN Member 212, 11439 posts SQ 325, BP 212.5, DL 370907.5 kgs @ 100kgs UnEq | Don`t fall out you b**ches - spread the love . | ||
| nathan | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 20:44 |
 no longer sugdens strongest man Member 455, 1336 posts | dont see why people are arguing. we allo love strongman we all want to promote this underground sport weather natural, steroid freaks,/woman/ under 90kg/105kg/opens/gays/pensioners we need this sport to be a lot bigger in this country than it is fair play for the comp it seemed good glen did mention he learnt a lot more for next years comp well done mate for putting it on. maybe there are some stronger natural blokes but guess what they werent there so the winner deserves his win. strongman needs people like glen and the competitiors to get this sport known. | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 20:48 |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | nathan said: dont see why people are arguing. we allo love strongman we all want to promote this underground sport weather natural, steroid freaks,/woman/ under 90kg/105kg/opens/gays/pensioners we need this sport to be a lot bigger in this country than it is fair play for the comp it seemed good glen did mention he learnt a lot more for next years comp well done mate for putting it on. maybe there are some stronger natural blokes but guess what they werent there so the winner deserves his win. strongman needs people like glen and the competitiors to get this sport known. x2 | ||
| WILLSAN | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 22:08 |
 Trump will get another four years Member 126, 16707 posts SQ 160, BP 110, DL 225495.0 kgs @ 75kgs UnEq | cant see anything unhealthy about a bit of discussion on the future of the sport TBH. hopefully natural sm can take off like the 105s has done over the past couple of seasons. | ||
| Wayne_Cowdrey | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 22:12 |
 Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22053 posts | glen_danbury said: next year there will be an under 100kg and over 100kg and the second class will have alot heavier implements The lighter class should have HEAVY events too! I must admit I was put off by the lightish weights in this comp, but I intend to compete next year. I like comps to be challenging! This sport is meant to be tough! | ||
| thosebananas | | ... | 12-08-2009 @ 22:57 |
Trophy Hunter Member 743, 3329 posts SQ 230, BP 130, DL 300660.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq | Wayne_Cowdrey said: glen_danbury said: next year there will be an under 100kg and over 100kg and the second class will have alot heavier implements The lighter class should have HEAVY events too! I must admit I was put off by the lightish weights in this comp, but I intend to compete next year. I like comps to be challenging! This sport is meant to be tough! Whats tougher... a 1rm Dead... or a set of 20? Hard to pick imo.. | ||
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