Do your deadlift & squat progress better trained together or separate?

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herman		Do your deadlift & squat progress better trained together or separate?	03-10-2012 @ 22:42
hermit Member 3904, 988 posts	Was wondering if people find it more productive to focus on either the squat or deadlift on their own, like spending a few weeks or even months prioritising one or the other? Or if you progress better training both together?

ItsaSecret		...	03-10-2012 @ 23:01
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250 610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Post Edited: 03.10.2012 @ 23:01 PM by ItsaSecret i trained them both in one session once and never again thats all i have to say lol, i train them once a week each now. thats just about right for me. however i have thought of squatting multiple times a week as its my s**t lift but im sure id just give up straight away cause i wouldnt enjoy it

herman		...	03-10-2012 @ 23:19
hermit Member 3904, 988 posts	Post Edited: 03.10.2012 @ 23:24 PM by herman I meant more as in a training cycle. Like 4-8 weeks doing a squat programme or deadlift specifically, only focusing on one lift during the entire period. But as you bring up both in the session, doing deads after squats seems fine. If anything it cuts down on warm ups for the deads. (This maybe different for much stronger people though) What baffles me is this group of old powerlifters that train at my gym (all used to compete and still lift fairly big) they often do squats AFTER deadlifts. Now that is just mental.

Bim		...	04-10-2012 @ 00:13
6:19.WTF Member 3359, 3677 posts SQ 250, BP 210, DL 295 755.0 kgs @ 89kgs UnEq	But as you bring up both in the session, doing deads after squats seems fine. If anything it cuts down on warm ups for the deads. (This maybe different for much stronger people though) What baffles me is this group of old powerlifters that train at my gym (all used to compete and still lift fairly big) they often do squats AFTER deadlifts. Now that is just mental. It's the opposite for me, if I hammer squats that's me done for the day, but if I hammer deads I can squat after.

Luuuuuukey		...	04-10-2012 @ 06:54
Hill sprints are fun! Member 731, 3253 posts SQ 200, BP 127.5, DL 232.5 560.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq	ItsaSecret said:i trained them both in one session once and never again thats all i have to say lol, i train them once a week each now. thats just about right for me. however i have thought of squatting multiple times a week as its my s**t lift but im sure id just give up straight away cause i wouldnt enjoy it My squat responds really well to me simply squatting more. Give squatting multiple times per week a go!

JH		...	04-10-2012 @ 09:09
Member 1739, 1266 posts SQ 365, BP 245, DL 332.5 942.5 kgs @ 105kgs Eq	I squat, bench, dead lift in all my sessions, I may even squat twice in one session. Some may say its overkill but works for me.

Fazc		...	04-10-2012 @ 09:16
Sports an extremely muscular arse. Member 38, 6253 posts	Squatting and Pulling in one session, usually twice a week works well for me. In terms of focus, I focus on them both at the same time. It's just a matter of strengths and weaknesses.


Wayne_Cowdrey		...	04-10-2012 @ 09:47
Still got a little bit of strength Member 400, 22059 posts	I don't train either anymore, but I preferred to focus on squats and train deads now and again. When I did do deads I usually squatted in the same session.

93hopkinsonr		...	04-10-2012 @ 11:02
Mr.Potato deadlift Member 2675, 4637 posts SQ 300, BP 200, DL 300 800.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	I started lifting properly in January, I've deadlifted and squatted twice a week and both have come quite a long way. Do whatever works for you

ItsaSecret		...	04-10-2012 @ 11:06
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250 610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Luuuuuukey said: My squat responds really well to me simply squatting more. Give squatting multiple times per week a go! hmm if i did that i'd have to sack deads for a bit, id be willing to do that but its a son of a b**ch to get your form back. what ive started doing now is adding some romanians to my leg day as my hamstrings are very small and poor lol, hoping this will bring my squat and dead up considerably. aswell as training everything as normal of course!

Luuuuuukey		...	04-10-2012 @ 11:58
Hill sprints are fun! Member 731, 3253 posts SQ 200, BP 127.5, DL 232.5 560.0 kgs @ 80kgs UnEq	ItsaSecret said: hmm if i did that i'd have to sack deads for a bit, id be willing to do that but its a son of a b**ch to get your form back. what ive started doing now is adding some romanians to my leg day as my hamstrings are very small and poor lol, hoping this will bring my squat and dead up considerably. aswell as training everything as normal of course! Why would you have to get rid of deadlifting if you squatted 2 or 3 times a week? Unless its related to injury I'm sure you'd soon get used to it.

ItsaSecret		...	04-10-2012 @ 12:28
close to being re-banned Member 3955, 822 posts SQ 200, BP 160, DL 250 610.0 kgs @ 110kgs UnEq	Luuuuuukey said: Why would you have to get rid of deadlifting if you squatted 2 or 3 times a week? Unless its related to injury I'm sure you'd soon get used to it. i used to have a 3 day rotation training 7 days a week i feel all injury prone in the hamstring area. and felt f**ked lol, i feel much much better with rest days now, ill stick with this, until god forbid the day comes when i do get stuck, then ill smolov it or something

milsy		...	04-10-2012 @ 12:51
Ne n coner a fuickex .ay ouse part we .be Member 1425, 4647 posts SQ 340, BP 227.5, DL 335 902.5 kgs @ 125kgs UnEq	I once wrote about this in a thread a while back if I could find the thread I would re post it but I have always gone with the theory of some people are built for deads others are built for squats and once you find out which one suits you hammer the volume on that lift often people who are naturaly good at squatting due to levers can squat multiple times per week and heavy but people with levers thy benefit the deadlift can't do this in most cases although they can recover well from deadlifting multiple times a week So once you know what your best at naturaly build your programs around volume on that lift and put the other lift on the back burner for me I'm a natural squatter and found squatting 4 times per week and deadlifting once to work really well if you were a natural deadlifter I would do it the other way round Just something I have found with people I have trained with in the past when we tried it out

JamieG		...	04-10-2012 @ 12:57
Tom's CNS is better than steroids Member 2886, 2973 posts SQ 190, BP 122.5, DL 210 522.5 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	milsy said: Just something I have found with people I have trained with in the past when we tried it out I think this is true, for me at least. I have squatted at max intensity 4 times per week for a 6 week block and felt I could take it further if anything. Yet I'm still feeling knackered from my deadlift PB 4 days ago.

Terminator		...	04-10-2012 @ 13:01
jerking is obviously great, Member 2521, 4721 posts SQ 235, BP 160, DL 290 685.0 kgs @ 111kgs UnEq	2 squat days, and 1 deadlift day (never in conjunction) each week works well for me

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