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terryhollands		...	24-09-2011 @ 15:12
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts	JFL said:I think the shear number of posts on this topic says it all you boys had a s**t load of support and you all did incredibly well not to forget Jack McIntosh who has come out of nowhere. Well done boys truely inspiring keep it up !!!XX Jack did awesome! was well impressed with how he handled himself on his first attempt! people don't realise how tough mentally the comp is! Keep picking yourself up when you get up every morning and feel like you can't even lift your bag off the floor! He definitely showed he has what it takes

Stetec		...	24-09-2011 @ 16:14
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts	Post Edited: 24.09.2011 @ 16:15 PM by Stetec terryhollands said: Maybe I should complain about the 100m not being fair on fat bas***ds like me and say I only wanna run 60m Na, that would be like smaller/weaker guys lifting smaller weights. Not the same thing. The weights should stay the same just the apparatus adjusted accordingly.

terryhollands		...	24-09-2011 @ 17:25
9x WSM finalist! Member 662, 3372 posts	Stetec said: Na, that would be like smaller/weaker guys lifting smaller weights. Not the same thing. The weights should stay the same just the apparatus adjusted accordingly. okay, how about the other sprinters complaining bolt has longer legs. maybe we should make the stones smaller for the shorter guys too???

robocop		...	24-09-2011 @ 18:09
Commentators say: he benches like a bodybuilder Member 231, 1873 posts SQ 400, BP 275, DL 365 1040.0 kgs @ 135.7kgs Eq	Well done terry and loz, all us at sugden where going through every emotion hearing updates, was awesome couple of days can't wait to watch it on 5

EDCLARKE		...	24-09-2011 @ 19:55
not particularly well educated Member 85, 10991 posts SQ 170, BP 130, DL 260 560.0 kgs @ 90kgs UnEq	well done Loz and Terry fantastic performance from both of you.

JFL		...	24-09-2011 @ 20:29
Englands strongest man 2011 Member 1342, 246 posts SQ 340, BP 220, DL 380 940.0 kgs @ 160kgs Eq	terryhollands said: okay, how about the other sprinters complaining bolt has longer legs. maybe we should make the stones smaller for the shorter guys too??? I agree with Terry you start fkin around with heights, weights and size of equipment and make sure that everyone gets the weight best for them, its not strongest man its ste !! Lets be honest Lalas, Poundstone and Rob show that size doesn't matter. You dont hear the tall guys complaining that bars and stones are too low down.

Stetec		...	24-09-2011 @ 20:46
Thing thinks he can decide what goes here. He cant Member 354, 1452 posts	Post Edited: 24.09.2011 @ 20:52 PM by Stetec terryhollands said: okay, how about the other sprinters complaining bolt has longer legs. maybe we should make the stones smaller for the shorter guys too??? Well, in that case don't bother adjusting yokes, squats, pendulum press etc. Strongman isn't sprinting so lets compare like with like. Didn't say anything about changing the weights, just the height of some apparatus, in particular stones. Easy to say when you're as tall as you are. Do you want to beat a guy on stones because you're stronger or taller? Come on guys, does no one remember watching Jimmy trying to load stones that time and couldn't reach and not think this isn't on like? Anyway, just my opinion, don't mean to hijack the thread, congrats on an excellent performance.


davycummings		...	24-09-2011 @ 21:14
he's got betty davis eyes Member 1684, 6001 posts SQ 250, BP 186, DL 291 727.0 kgs @ 118kgs UnEq	I think adjusting the frame width like the yoke height could possibly be worth considering, as it is only an issue of getting in your best position for carrying. No problem with that, and easy for the crowd to understand. Changing the stone height would be stupid, and the crowd wouldn't like it (in my opinion) but what the crowds also dont like is when guys cant reach to load the stones despite lifting it above their head. They have already showed they are strong enough, just not tall enough. The simple solution, make the stones HEAVIER NOT HIGHER, it will still favour the taller guy, but not to the point of being impossible for the shorter one (I know, I am like a stuck record on this)

JFL		...	24-09-2011 @ 21:19
Englands strongest man 2011 Member 1342, 246 posts SQ 340, BP 220, DL 380 940.0 kgs @ 160kgs Eq	Stetec said: Well, in that case don't bother adjusting yokes, squats, pendulum press etc. Strongman isn't sprinting so lets compare like with like. Didn't say anything about changing the weights, just the height of some apparatus, in particular stones. Easy to say when you're as tall as you are. Do you want to beat a guy on stones because you're stronger or taller? Come on guys, does no one remember watching Jimmy trying to load stones that time and couldn't reach and not think this isn't on like? Anyway, just my opinion, don't mean to hijack the thread, congrats on an excellent performance. Lets be honest you start altering stuff and where does it end. Next you'll be saying that anyone over 6'on an 18" deadlift should have the bar adjusted to knee height, people with small hands dont have to use an axel, and on overhead press everyone over 6' doesn't have to lock out cause they got longer leavers, on the squat we dont have to meet parallel and on Conans wheel we want the bar sat higher. So as you can see this can go on and on and on the events are set so it benefits both tall and short athletes. I know its s**t for loading stones on a higher platform but lets be honest they are not exactly heavy and they could easily be pressed. I just think leave it as it is and then its fair for everyone.

Craig_Pfisterer		...	24-09-2011 @ 22:12
Sugdens 'man' at WSM 2021 Member 1513, 2139 posts SQ 224.5, BP 181, DL 276.5 682.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2876/soonpy.jpg

Boar		...	24-09-2011 @ 22:23
Nothing left in the tank. Member 5, 25580 posts Administrator	is that you craig ? looking a little older if i may say .... nice pic ! Craig_Pfisterer said:http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2876/soonpy.jpg

PaulSavage		...	24-09-2011 @ 22:31
Member 2775, 6927 posts	JFL said: Lets be honest you start altering stuff and where does it end. Next you'll be saying that anyone over 6'on an 18" deadlift should have the bar adjusted to knee height, people with small hands dont have to use an axel, and on overhead press everyone over 6' doesn't have to lock out cause they got longer leavers, on the squat we dont have to meet parallel and on Conans wheel we want the bar sat higher. So as you can see this can go on and on and on the events are set so it benefits both tall and short athletes. I know its s**t for loading stones on a higher platform but lets be honest they are not exactly heavy and they could easily be pressed. I just think leave it as it is and then its fair for everyone. Easily pressed if your a strong strict presser, not otherwise. First time i did stones in competition i was almost knocked unconscious by a 100kg stone landing on my head, i was one of the tallest competitors that day / it was the same height platforms at worlds. I lifted the 100kg stone to my shoulder several times and after the contest almost loaded all 4 remaining stones with zero technique. I think the platforms are too tall. Not only is it dangerous, but i find it entirely pointless. To me it makes much more sense to keep the platforms the same height but increase the weight of the stones. Just my opinion.

Craig_Pfisterer		...	24-09-2011 @ 22:45
Sugdens 'man' at WSM 2021 Member 1513, 2139 posts SQ 224.5, BP 181, DL 276.5 682.0 kgs @ 120kgs UnEq	Boar said:is that you craig ? looking a little older if i may say .... nice pic ! Nope, just saw that older guy in the jacket looking pissed off and thought it was funny so I emphasized it.

JayMcLaughlin		...	24-09-2011 @ 22:50
Member 766, 113 posts	I think the organisers need to be mindful, it is about finding the strongest not tallest or heaviest. I used the example earlier of the frame carry where wide handles to accommodate the bulk of a Shaw specifically disadvantage a Lalas or Poundstone. Imagine if the frame was set to accommodate a shorter armed 140kg Lalas, it's quite possible a 210kg Shaw would struggle to fit inside the frame or at very least he would be at a disadvantage. I want it fair for all the guys, so we can find the strongest.

JayMcLaughlin		...	24-09-2011 @ 22:59
Member 766, 113 posts	Post Edited: 24.09.2011 @ 23:03 PM by JayMcLaughlin Take another example. Shaw and Lalas both shoulder a 180kg stone. I think we would all say that's a great show of strength by both guys and honours even. Yet Shaw wins because in my hypothetical event Shaw can roll his stone off his shoulder over a yoke and Lalas can't. Has Shaw really become the strongest now?

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