Celebrity Powerlifters
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| little_a |  | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 12:43 |
 still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | I could arrange to be burgled and have my private porn collection go on ebay, I'm Lemon fresh though. It may not do PL any good | ||
| JC | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 14:04 |
 technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Silver_Oldie said: In my view TV is the key.There are a number of sports that on the face of are boring if you dont understand them,or participate, but given the proper presentation and camera close ups and angles do very well.Think of Darts,Snooker,Speedway....bloody hell Four old dears with a Curling ball had their moment.There are a number of programmes devoted to fishing ...gotta be a bit of editing in these dont you think. I do also believe that the sport we all love has to get its house in order if we are to go national...Different Feds ,testing rules etc.I fear the printed media could do a lot of damage given the chance  I applaud Martins enterprise because even if he only gets part of the way its going to be a hell of a lot further than we have travelled before....As always mates just my slant on thisvery good post and totally agree | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 14:28 |
 Old Age Presser Member 75, 7739 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | Agree. TV coverage is the holy grail, but that will happen either when the cameras follow individuals who are sufficiently stellar for it to be a story that they are competing; or if the profile has been lifted through other media sources. A number of lifters find the sport boring to watch. Various reasons for that, including competition fatigue, low key comps with little atmosphere, etc. Plus competitors often make the worst spectators. We need to bear in mind a couple of things: If people go to one comp a year and it's well presented, they won't be bored; and tv coverage will be heavily edited. As Rick says, what's more boring than a marathon (apart from the last couple of miles) but look at the coverage it gets. That's partly because the marathon is the pinnacle of a pyramid of hundreds of thousands of runners/joggers and is therefore perceived as a popular participation sport. There are probably comparable numbers who go to gyms than there are who run/jog to keep fit. Powerlifting can therefore lay claim to also be at the pinnacle of a large participation pyramid. I know we have little in common with a typical biceps fetishist, but then how much does Paula Radcliffe have in common with someone who jogs round the local park a couple of times a week? It's a strong selling point, if we ever get to the point where we are pitching for a sale. | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 14:30 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7739 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | jimblanchflower said: How about approaching this from the other direction. Take a current powerlifter and encourage them to become famous. Do any of you have any talent? Is there any chance of beefing up next year's X factor? Jim, I've entered you in next year's "Britian's Got Talent". They didn't have any wind instruments last year, iirc, and I was most impressed by your recital in Colne.  | ||
| Rob | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 14:56 |
 Does f*ck all for SugdenBarbell.co.uk Member 1, 7173 posts SQ 182.5, BP 110, DL 205497.5 kgs @ 107kgs UnEq Administrator | I think one of the main reasons which makes powerlifting boring to watch is that there can at times be no competition - and this can be through lack of competitors, too many different categories (Masters, Juniors, Bodyweights, Genders and all subdivisions thereof) and just simply the fact that the winner can become patently obvious through significantly higher openers. Seeing two people (or more) go head to head for a title is great, but it's something which I haven't seen that regularly in the competitions I've attended. I also don't like the way people can win a title in a weight class heavier than someone below them even if that person had a higher total - it doesn't make any sense. Hell, it happened to me at the last NW unequipped when I 'won' the U23 110s with a lower total than David in the U23 100s!! It even happened at the IPF Worlds where the 110s winner out-totalled the 125s winner by over 25 kilos! I doubt it would ever be possible, but if Wilks could calculate age and weight all into one - and placings were just based off that, would this lead to greater chances of head to head battles to win titles? Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent, just some random ramblings! | ||
| JC | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 15:16 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Rob said: I also don't like the way people can win a title in a weight class heavier than someone below them even if that person had a higher total - it doesn't make any sense. Hell, it happened to me at the last NW unequipped when I 'won' the U23 110s with a lower total than David in the U23 100s!! It even happened at the IPF Worlds where the 110s winner out-totalled the 125s winner by over 25 kilos! I doubt it would ever be possible, but if Wilks could calculate age and weight all into one - and placings were just based off that, would this lead to greater chances of head to head battles to win titles? Sorry for going off on a bit of a tangent, just some random ramblings! I have never understood the age thing. In no other sport I can think of are competitors categorised by age? I cant understand why all competitors cant compete together? You only have to look on here to see that the older memebers are equally as good, if not better than those younger | ||
| little_a | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 15:23 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | JC said: In no other sport I can think of are competitors categorised by age? Dont Athletics, football, swimming, OL, PL, bodybuilding all have junior, senior and masters age groups (at least)? | ||
| JC | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 15:37 |
technical retard Member 172, 36827 posts SQ 310, BP 205, DL 335850.0 kgs @ 108kgs UnEq | Post Edited: 06.12.2007 @ 15:37 PM masters football is not 11 a-side though, so is not footaball in the true sense of the professional sportBB yeah, but they still al compete together for the "open" title - is this the case with PL, I dont know, as not that knowledeable on the subject? obviously from what you have said ther are a few, but not a great deal comparable to the amount of sports available in this country | ||
| little_a | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 16:00 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | The world masters games is held every 4 years, is a global comp, held next in 2009 in Oz. They probably have a site somewhere that describes all the participating sports. The CW youth games is held as a trial run for a country hosting the actual Commonwealth, usually the year prior. Again they probably have a site. I'd bet that most sports are catagorized into age groups, with outstanding youth and vets being able to hold their own against opens or seniors. There again I bet on that f**king donkey Bullock to beat Ian Shaw this Sunday so what do I know?  | ||
| Martin1956 | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 16:00 |
Old Age Presser Member 75, 7739 posts SQ 0, BP 200, DL 200400.0 kgs @ 105kgs Eq | I agree, Rob. When I came second in the Open 100s BWLA Raw Bench last July, I "beat" the guy who won the 125+ category! In the IPF World Masters Bench, the M2 100s was won by a Jap who weighed 90.4 or something like that with a lift of 220. (Incidentally he beat Auman on bodyweight!) The 90s was won by a Pole who lifted 230. What's the bet that the Jap opted to avoid the Pole, as opposed to finding it impossible to shift 0.4 of a kilo? Don't know what the answer is, though! JC, Masters keeps older people in the sport, and relatively few masters can hold their own in open comps. I think the answer is to let masters compete amongst themselves AND in open comps. It worked in the BWLA Raw Bench in July, it works in BDFPA, and I think it's something BWLA should fully embrace. | ||
| Rick | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 22:01 |
 I am a bench-only guy Member 3, 10035 posts SQ 185, BP 175, DL 235595.0 kgs @ 140kgs UnEq Administrator | Obviously this is easy for a superheavy to say, but it seems to me that there are too many weight classes. We have the same problem boxing has - with so many feds and a million weight classes in each, there are so many "champions" it starts to mean nothing. I mean, there are 11 men's weight classes in the seniors. Cut it down to 4-6, say I. | ||
| brynevans | | ... | 06-12-2007 @ 23:19 |
 Scotbasher - forever Member 59, 2115 posts | There is 1 weight class less this year in the seniors under IPF rules, they have deleted the mens under 52kg category and the womens under 44kg category. I dont think there's too many weight classes, there's just too few competitors! | ||
| little_a | | ... | 07-12-2007 @ 07:49 |
still a devious weightlifting bastard Member 43, 14374 posts | brynevans said: I dont think there's too many weight classes, there's just too few competitors! Absolutely on the money. Nail and head spring to mind. | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 07-12-2007 @ 08:23 |
 Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17884 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | JC said: I have never understood the age thing. That's because you're 26 | ||
| Fatpete | | ... | 07-12-2007 @ 08:26 |
Hyper obese Pete Member 70, 17884 posts SQ 322.5, BP 205, DL 300827.5 kgs @ 133kgs Eq | Rob said: I think one of the main reasons which makes powerlifting boring to watch ! That may be true when you're lifting, it isn't when I'm up there. | ||